2007 Ultra Classic problems
I have found someone who owns a speed shop with a great reputation and he has the fix. There is also a company that made a gear to replace 5th so it will sound like the rest the only thing it can void your warrenty from what the dealer says. What is sad is when everyone has a fix except Harley. The PC III is one of the things suggested so you guys are on the right track.
I think you'll find itenlightening......to say the least. You'll be amazed at what you think is beneficial and what is actually a benefit. I know I was.
Here's to riding safe either way![sm=icon_cheers.gif]
For the heat, synthetic will drastically reduce the temps... just get any one of the aforementioned good synthetic oils... not the harley crap. Also I just went bone stock vance and hines duals, ovals, and fuel pak. Works great and my fuel economy even improved (lost a little bit off the line, but made up for it on the freeway). I even went a step further and threw on an oil cooler... but the problems you mentioned aren't really considered problem's by the moco. They apparently were calculated engineering decisions.
The bike runs great, their is a learning curve to it, even if you've ridden evolution engines... rev it a bit higher before shifting... and I don't know how many miles you've gotten on yours yet, but the bike will settle down a bit around 2,000 miles and will be running alot smoother at 5,000. So I'd not write your Harley off as a piece of crap quite yet. Oh and dealerships are not created equal... shop around. There a good ones and there are those that are mind boggling... not. They are phenominal machines... you'll get alot of satisfaction with a few simple tools and a manual by doing things yourself. My '07 ultra has been my best harley yet. (I've only had an '03 heritage springer and an '06 road king classic previously)
All I can say is read, read, and read. Then ask questions and read some more.
I mentioned these things in other threads in this forum, see epa 2006 or some such
and a response / reply I made with reference material and web links to support my assertions in 01flhtci repair estimates.
but briefly
in 2006 Epa came out with stricter regs for motorcycles and will do so in 2010.
Somethings they expected manufacturers to do, increase displacement add cats, and F.I
HD did increase displacement (96ci vs 88ci) did away with carbs and went to FI in most if not all models.
To meet epa requirements one thing you do is lean out the fuel / air mixture.
But too lean causes other problems. In air cooled motors you can only go so lean before heat becomes an issue (among other things auto's added catalytic converters and EGR valves).
Thus the heat issue in 07's. To combat this HDMOCO is doing a voluntary ECM F/A remap.
I don't know how this will help with tranny noise but they claim it does.
See my assertion in 06flhtci repair estimate about tranny noises and web link.
Basically this is a BRAND NEW TRANNY FOR HD. It only stands to reason that no matter how perfect is may be on drawing board and in lab, real world is going to cause deficencies and even design flaws to become apparent.
different metals expand and contract at different amounts and speeds so.....
HD claims they stiffened the tranny case, and used bigger bearings, plus for certain gears (I forget which ones) went to helical gears, for smoother, quieter, shifting and better load (torque) handling.
One problem in helical cut though.
It puts a heavier lateral (sideways) load on the bearings and case.
Perhaps case isn't stiff enough and is flexing, this flexing would or could cause other tolerances to change, thus possibly causing some of the noises we're hearing about.
This is just my .02, but it's plausible and anybody here who thinks that HD couldn't make an error is fooling themselves.
Below is only one issue where HD screwed up and took THREE years to admit to it.
1998-99 roadglides fuel injected, Hd had a design error in the Stator. People who rode a lot kept burning them out. HD denied it continually for about three years. Then issued a recall bulletin to fix it.
Will that happen here with the new tranny? I guess only time will tell.
But to get HDMOCO's attention, you people need to complain (LOUDLY).
Complain to dealers, get it in, get it on a work order and a reference number.
Call HDMOCO and complain there and GET A REFERENCE number. Get others with same info to corroborate your claim, by calling in also. The reference number is how HD develops their database of real world problems and develops the recalls and tech bulletins to issue repairs.
So it's up those of you having the problems to be assertive in your complaints.
And share your REFERNCE numbers with others, so when others call in they can mention the reference numbers in their complaint.
again just my .02
I have a 2007 Ultra Classic with 1500 miles on it now, the engine overheats and the 5th gear is noisy. I have been on a few forums and it seems that this is getting to be a common problem. You mention it to harley and their answer is that it's the nature of the beast they will not admit that they have a problem with their new bikes.
There is a company that came out with a fix for the transmission and I found a fix for the overheating but harley says that this will void my warrenty. So I guess we have to live with Harley Davidsons screw ups if we want to keep it under warranty. Oh by the way I did manage to get a service manager to admit that these are issues and he wasn't aware that there was a fix.
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Fifth gear whines, as it has straight cut gears, 1st thru 4th and 6th are quiet. Nature of the beast.[sm=headbang.gif]
This is by far not my first HD, but by far the hottest running one. I even bought some Kury rider heat shields as I was toasting the inner thighs at stop lights. Lean A/F mixturesto meet EPA requirements is a big cause.
I said screw the warranty and am in the middle of a major engine build, not to correct any of the above problems, but because I can't keep anything stock that I own, always looking for a bit more power. Plus, the exhaust change will most likely reduce how noticeable the tranny noise is.
A Stage 1 download, air cleaner, freer flowing exhaust and a tuner, any of them, SERT, PC III or tohers will definite make a difference in operating temp, not to mention andding a few more HP and TQ. If you go that route, you won't be disappointed.
By the way, I love my Ultra, as I have with the other HD's I have owned, but I am not afraid of digging in and making mods.
Hope this helps.
question, what is wrong with your 06 running problem wise?
I have a 2007 Ultra Classic with 1500 miles on it now, the engine overheats and the 5th gear is noisy. I have been on a few forums and it seems that this is getting to be a common problem. You mention it to harley and their answer is that it's the nature of the beast they will not admit that they have a problem with their new bikes.
There is a company that came out with a fix for the transmission and I found a fix for the overheating but harley says that this will void my warrenty. So I guess we have to live with Harley Davidsons screw ups if we want to keep it under warranty. Oh by the way I did manage to get a service manager to admit that these are issues and he wasn't aware that there was a fix.
- 1. Do your own maintenance unless you want your bike totally screwed up by some pimple-faced kid at the dealership (or find a good tech and only schedule with him/her).
- 2. Find a good dyno tuner and have either a SERT or PC III installed to help with the heat problem. If you are concerned about the so called HD "Warranty," go with the PC III ---- then you just disconnect it when you take the bike in for warranty work and the bike is back to "box stock." Evena stone-stock bike will run much better with a good dyno tune.
- 3. If you want the bike to run "right," it is atYOUR risk of an EPA violation/fine if you change outthe stock parts for "performance" parts.
BTW, how many "stone-stock" harleys have you seen?
IMHO, the quality of TC88 bikes have been going down hill since about '04, but what do I know except my '00 wife'sFLHT runs great andmy '06 Ultra don't.....? We have owned six HD's and loved every one of them until the '06 which will be my LAST new HD.


