Removing bottom end.
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I imagine you are looking at crank work to handle upgrades. I took the bottom out of an 05 TC and split the cases. Yes it takes having to take primary side off, etc. There are 4 bolts and alignment dowels on the rear that bolts it to the tranny. There are two bolts up front that hold it onto the lip of the motor mount. I put a jack under it to hold it while I unbolted everything and then pulled it up and out. To split the cases there are 10 bolts and the you have to hit it with a dead blow gently to get it to come apart. Do it in a 5 gal bucket or turn upside down and drain prior otherwise it gets messy. Upon reinstall all the case bearings get changed. Simple really when you get going.
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I imagine you are looking at crank work to handle upgrades. I took the bottom out of an 05 TC and split the cases. Yes it takes having to take primary side off, etc. There are 4 bolts and alignment dowels on the rear that bolts it to the tranny. There are two bolts up front that hold it onto the lip of the motor mount. I put a jack under it to hold it while I unbolted everything and then pulled it up and out. To split the cases there are 10 bolts and the you have to hit it with a dead blow gently to get it to come apart. Do it in a 5 gal bucket or turn upside down and drain prior otherwise it gets messy. Upon reinstall all the case bearings get changed. Simple really when you get going.
Maybe I should have worded it, would the average garage mechanic attempt this? Either way didn't take 4 plus replies of get a manual. Sometimes you just reach a breaking point after seeing posts like that so long. Guess I always give people the benefit of the doubt.
Mike
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Two hidden bolts on the starter to get inner off.
Once eventing is off/out the motor is just sitting there and without the top end is not that heavy.
Putting it back in is the hard part, take photos of how wires run, cables run it is amazing how fast we forget.
Did anyone mention don't try it without a manual;-)
Back to the question at hand, thanks Dawg. I don't trust anyone doing work on my bike. That's why I am looking to do this on my own, not to mention the money factor. I consider myself to be very mechanically inclined but I don't know everything and never will. I was planning on removing and sending to Darkhorse so I won't be splitting the cases myself. I just figured if I was going to do top end why not remove bottom end while I am at it. I figure winter project so I will have plenty of time.
Maybe I should have worded it, would the average garage mechanic attempt this? Either way didn't take 4 plus replies of get a manual. Sometimes you just reach a breaking point after seeing posts like that so long. Guess I always give people the benefit of the doubt.
Mike
Maybe I should have worded it, would the average garage mechanic attempt this? Either way didn't take 4 plus replies of get a manual. Sometimes you just reach a breaking point after seeing posts like that so long. Guess I always give people the benefit of the doubt.
Mike
If I had my choice, I'd rather build a motor on the bench, mounted in a stand. However, if I'm building it alone in my garage, I will take the top end down first, then remove the bottom end. It's a lot easier to remove single-handed that way.
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OP? You can do it just fine. Have the bike on a lift or jack. Support rear tire when using either. Rear tire needs to be off of the ground to spin things. Take a ratchet tie strap and wrap the tranny with it and click until that is under a very slight load. Remove everything, saving the tranny to engine bolts for last. Once you pull those, click the strap like twice so you can see a gap on TOP between the engine and tranny like 1/8 of an inch.
Pull the engine out from the carb. EFI side of the bike, at an angle.
Reverse to install. I LIKE using the straps to hold up the tranny, because one can make that small gap. When the gap is open, u can pull engine forward and out, when installing, once on the pins, loosen the strap a click or two, the engine/tranny goes right back together and you can run the bolts in nice and straight.
Buying the manual most likely is needed for all of the assembly steps inside the primary and also for all of the torque values.
Using Hoban brothers is the best move you will make. Good decision on that.
Pull the engine out from the carb. EFI side of the bike, at an angle.
Reverse to install. I LIKE using the straps to hold up the tranny, because one can make that small gap. When the gap is open, u can pull engine forward and out, when installing, once on the pins, loosen the strap a click or two, the engine/tranny goes right back together and you can run the bolts in nice and straight.
Buying the manual most likely is needed for all of the assembly steps inside the primary and also for all of the torque values.
Using Hoban brothers is the best move you will make. Good decision on that.
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As has been stated , remove from frame , split cases (yes a dead blow is helpful). I had to set up the crank end play on my 2000 RK engine when I put in a screaming eagle stroker crank. I bought the right tools and followed my manual. Use HondaBond, or YamaBond or HarleyBond (all the same) for resealing cases. A very light coat works. Hasn't dripped a drop yet. The engine has about 30,000 miles on it now and runs great. Just take your time and read the manual carefully! Read it,then re-read it, then start. If you have questions feel free to PM me but I am in and out a lot so might take a while for a response. Thanks
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Maybe asking the right questions and explaining what ya are trying to do and find out would get ya some answers ya are looking for. You latter explained ya want to send the lower end (cases) out for crank work. What ya really wanted info on was removing the engine. So the title and first post was at the least misleading but for sure wrong. Then ya want to bitch about the answers???
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I'm done with commenting on this thread. Like I said my thought process translated into words in not always the most clear. I have received the answer to my question and even a volunteer to help. Thanks to all those that help me out, and apologies to those offended.
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