27 tooth compensator to lower rpms
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Road Warrior
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From: Orange, VA,
27 tooth compensator to lower rpms
Has anyone done this? I have a 99 EG Standard with carb, I ride a lot on the highway and would love to lower the rpms, this kit comes with sprocket and chain for about $125. From my research this is the cheapest and least amount of work to do this, it also will not change the speedo reading. Any downside other then loosing a little torque taking off, am not worried about down low, the bike has SE 204 cams in it now and for me has plenty of power for how I ride. Is it harder on the starter or cause any problems any where else? Thanks
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I'm runnin a Baker DD6 with a 27 tooth primary chain...
Been running it for a little more than 3 years now, no probs with starter at all. Other than that, I can't add anything, since I have the DD6 gear set the rest is not the same as your 5 speed gear box.
Been running it for a little more than 3 years now, no probs with starter at all. Other than that, I can't add anything, since I have the DD6 gear set the rest is not the same as your 5 speed gear box.
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I see that the only one chiming in so far is from the "flat land". You are in a hilly/mountainous area. How much 2 up do you do and how much playing in the friction zone do you do now when starting from a standstill? Regardless of cam, air filter, exhaust and on and on you have, it will require more friction zone time to get going. If 1st gear seems almost too low now, this will help make it "about right". If 1st seems too high now, this will make it worse. The only way to retain starting from a standstill low gear and lower cruise RPM is a different transmission. I hope someone living in similar terrain to your area provides his input. The rest is up to you, if you are 2 up on an up hill slope, how easy is to start moving now? Can you afford to sacrifice some of that capability?
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Have never had a problem with starting off in 1st gear, actually to me 1st gear is over kill with how quickly I have to shift into 2nd, even 2 up, so I don't think that will be a problem, I did not buy a Harley to hot rod or race, I have a race car for that, I just want to make it more friendly while out on the highway and not spend thousands doing so like a Baker 6 speed, I love this bike and plan on keeping it to ride, not race, is older and a carb, I like simplicity, that makes it easier for me to work on. Thanks for all your replies.
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If it will be of any input for you,I run a 47T out back with 24T on the tranny-I run stock no's. for the primary-all late 90's softail running gear.But this is on my chop/about 200+ lb's. lighter.Kind of like going from a 4:11 to a 3:73 rear differential in an older car.Hiway sweetspot is around 65-70.
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you could look at a 65T rear pulley, this is a quick and easy swap...minutes.
Just over 7% overdrive
you will probably have to loose or alter the belt guard.
you will need another inch of adjustment on the axle for belt tension. ( or an idler wheel, like Buell)
I ran one on my stage 1 1995 FLHTC to good result, and we have mountains here.
part number: 40315-94
pic of one: http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/mcy/3964341244.html
I run a 61T on my FXR, a 15% overdrive. Nice to get all the way through an intersection before shifting. This is a worked motor and a lightweight bike. and this one sees lots of mountains and canyons...I did this swap in 1993, back before we had the aftermarket and 6 speed overdrive options.
I use the shorter softail belt
so more than one way to skin a cat
Mike
Just over 7% overdrive
you will probably have to loose or alter the belt guard.
you will need another inch of adjustment on the axle for belt tension. ( or an idler wheel, like Buell)
I ran one on my stage 1 1995 FLHTC to good result, and we have mountains here.
part number: 40315-94
pic of one: http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/mcy/3964341244.html
I run a 61T on my FXR, a 15% overdrive. Nice to get all the way through an intersection before shifting. This is a worked motor and a lightweight bike. and this one sees lots of mountains and canyons...I did this swap in 1993, back before we had the aftermarket and 6 speed overdrive options.
I use the shorter softail belt
so more than one way to skin a cat
Mike
Last edited by mkguitar; Jul 31, 2013 at 12:38 PM.
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Mike, I have a 70 tooth rear pulley now, wouldn't I have to chage the belt with a 65 tooth? With the comp sprocket I just have to pull the primary cover off replace the chain and comp sprocket, this mod also does not change my speedo reading, seems like less work and lower cost. Please set me straight here lol
Thanks, Frank
Thanks, Frank
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From: Phoenix '53, '88, '09 Big Twins
an additional inch over where you are now with the 70T.
on my '95 I had the adjustment room- I have seen a rider who used an idler wheel on the lower span of the belt...'cause all the pulling force is on the top span
look at your adjusters where they sit now
if you have room, this takes minutes to swap the pulley
as GR refers below: 61T was on some Intl models, the 65T was on some softail models.
in the first case to pass noise emission standards overseas, in the 2nd in an attempt to make Domestic riders happier, dealing with the evo solid mount buzz
mike
Last edited by mkguitar; Jul 31, 2013 at 12:41 PM.
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When my 1990 bike was new it came with a 61T rear pulley. Gearing was too high IMHO. I now run with a stock US spec 70T. I have also gone from an 80" to an S&S 107" and everything is fine!
I really do recommend you leave things as they are. Your bike will thank you for doing so! I can see no advantage in raising gearing by 2 teeth, the darned thing isn't a multi-cylinder diesel!
On anything other than short trips, we should all be wearing ear plugs, the best tuning aid known to man! As a race-car driver you should know that, so try wearing them while out on your Harley. You'll be surprised how friendly she can be.....
I really do recommend you leave things as they are. Your bike will thank you for doing so! I can see no advantage in raising gearing by 2 teeth, the darned thing isn't a multi-cylinder diesel!
On anything other than short trips, we should all be wearing ear plugs, the best tuning aid known to man! As a race-car driver you should know that, so try wearing them while out on your Harley. You'll be surprised how friendly she can be.....
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From: Northeastern Md.
If it will be of any input for you,I run a 47T out back with 24T on the tranny-I run stock no's. for the primary-all late 90's softail running gear.But this is on my chop/about 200+ lb's. lighter.Kind of like going from a 4:11 to a 3:73 rear differential in an older car.Hiway sweetspot is around 65-70.