balancing beads
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From: Edmond Oklahoma
That's why I've given up responding. If beads or Ride-On worked so well, OEMs would ship new cars, trucks, and bikes with them, and tire manufacturers wouldn't write their warranties to specifically state not to use them.
Every time I see people insisting that the beads work, I want to point them here.
Every time I see people insisting that the beads work, I want to point them here.
Beary
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From: 'Noke, VA
Where did you read that? I didn't find it on Dunlop's warranty page.
http://www.dunlopmotorcycle.com/info...warranty-info/
Ride Safe
David
http://www.dunlopmotorcycle.com/info...warranty-info/
Ride Safe
David
Tires injected with dry/liquid balancers or sealants, or in which anything other than air has been used as the supporting medium.
The second I'm wrong, I'll be happy to admit it.
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From: Western South Dakota
They would be on the losing end here too as then it would be diminishing their bottom line, if they were constantly replacing their items that were under warranty.
Again, moco does not always know what's best.
However, it is your choice to believe that if it suits you, which apparently it does?
I choose to be objective and like to think that I am pro-active rather than
re-active if at all possible.
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I could be wrong here. But here's my thoughts.
First, I believe by my own experience that properly installed in the right amount, Balancing beads work. The tire rides smooth as silk, that's a fact, I'm not convincing myself of that. Second, Dunlop probably voids the warranty on internal balancing products for two reasons. One, the beads are a fairly new product and they probably haven't done their own reaserch to have a proper recommendation on how to use them. It's easier to warranty tires that are only filled with air than to go through the time and expense involved in trying to figure out if a claimant followed proper usage of products they don't make and haven't tested. Two, why would they want to warranty a tire that uses a product that increases tire life on an already great tire. Their in the business to sell tires not decrease sales by approving the use of such products.
Just my thoughts.
First, I believe by my own experience that properly installed in the right amount, Balancing beads work. The tire rides smooth as silk, that's a fact, I'm not convincing myself of that. Second, Dunlop probably voids the warranty on internal balancing products for two reasons. One, the beads are a fairly new product and they probably haven't done their own reaserch to have a proper recommendation on how to use them. It's easier to warranty tires that are only filled with air than to go through the time and expense involved in trying to figure out if a claimant followed proper usage of products they don't make and haven't tested. Two, why would they want to warranty a tire that uses a product that increases tire life on an already great tire. Their in the business to sell tires not decrease sales by approving the use of such products.
Just my thoughts.
Road Captain
Joined: Dec 2012
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From: Creston, Ohio
Hell I have been using balancing media in my truck tires for years and years
I've never had any problems
That's all that they use in bigger tires at the tire shop I go to.
I just ordered a 21" rim for my bike and they use dyna beads so I guess I will find out how well they work in a motorcycle tire
I would think that all these custom wheel places that use the beads (and just about every one of them use them) would stop using them if people were complaining that they didn't work.
Just my 2cents.....which is worth right around $37.68
I've never had any problems
That's all that they use in bigger tires at the tire shop I go to.
I just ordered a 21" rim for my bike and they use dyna beads so I guess I will find out how well they work in a motorcycle tire
I would think that all these custom wheel places that use the beads (and just about every one of them use them) would stop using them if people were complaining that they didn't work.
Just my 2cents.....which is worth right around $37.68
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From: Edmond Oklahoma
There a plenty of UTube demos that prove it to work. I haven't seen any that prove it not to work. Of course you won't see UTube demos proving gravity doesn't work either.
Beary
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From: Indian Land, SC
Hell I have been using balancing media in my truck tires for years and years
I've never had any problems
That's all that they use in bigger tires at the tire shop I go to.
I just ordered a 21" rim for my bike and they use dyna beads so I guess I will find out how well they work in a motorcycle tire
I would think that all these custom wheel places that use the beads (and just about every one of them use them) would stop using them if people were complaining that they didn't work.
Just my 2cents.....which is worth right around $37.68
I've never had any problems
That's all that they use in bigger tires at the tire shop I go to.
I just ordered a 21" rim for my bike and they use dyna beads so I guess I will find out how well they work in a motorcycle tire
I would think that all these custom wheel places that use the beads (and just about every one of them use them) would stop using them if people were complaining that they didn't work.
Just my 2cents.....which is worth right around $37.68
Tourer
Joined: Nov 2012
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From: Columbia sc
Fluid (beads and ***** count here as a fluid) have been used for dynamic balancing for a long long time. Not just in wheels, but in machinery as well. Your theory of physics is incorrect. Dynamic balancing works because of physics.
There a plenty of UTube demos that prove it to work. I haven't seen any that prove it not to work. Of course you won't see UTube demos proving gravity doesn't work either.
Beary
There a plenty of UTube demos that prove it to work. I haven't seen any that prove it not to work. Of course you won't see UTube demos proving gravity doesn't work either.
Beary
Dynamics RULE!!!!
I think some of us are afraid they'll loose thier membership in the "Flat Earth Society" !!!
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From: 'Noke, VA
Fact of the matter is that not only do no motorcycle or motorcycle tire manufacturers recommend beads, the tire manufacturers specifically state that your warranty is out the window if you use them. Even if you think I'm full of it, those simple facts should tell you plenty.
Dynamic balancing works, but for a motorcycle tire you need to use something like a Centramatic. The beads and the goo are incapable of doing the job.
By the way, there are plenty of videos on YouTube of people falling on their a$$es, proving that gravity works. Not even Innovative Balancing has a video of their beads working. And no, that ridiculous video of the water bottle and the drill proves nothing.