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Mar 5, 2007 | 10:09 PM

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mcb

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RE: true track riders out there

FYI on the true track. We purchased two units at the V-Twin Expo in Cincinnati about 4-5 weeks ago. The owner and manufacturer of the systemhas been ill and delivery is as stated 4-5 weeks with calling them at least twice a week with no call backs. I would call first and find out the status of delivery prior to ordering. There are other units on the market and they all perform the same function.
Check it out first!

Mar 7, 2007 | 11:22 AM

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Pearl Glide

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Before you spend the money, check the front motor mount. I started getting the "wobble" or "wander as you called it. Mine started this about 2-3k miles ago. Have an 06 Road Glide, Metezlers front & rear, rear tire had about 10k mileage, so I thought it was about time for the tire to be changed but it wasn't showing that much wear. I did visuals on the motor mounts, lubed stearing head, varied tire pressures & rear shock pressures. Everthing looked good, but the problem was still present. So I decided I was going to go with the Sta-Bo II. Never ordered it, and put about 2k more miles on the bike. Now rear tire was done so I took the bike in for the tire change and I went to pick it up and the service writer says hey we changed out your front motor mount, it was cracked. A test ride after the tire change made the tech take a look and sure enough it was cracked. Now remember I did a visual but to see the crack, he removed the mount and was able to see the crack. Like someone else said the new style mount is more rigid and you feel more vibe at idle but no more wobble and it's under warrenty! Take a look before you spend the bucks.

Apr 26, 2007 | 11:34 PM

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RE: true track riders out there

I installed the Sta-Bo bushings in my bike a few days ago and was able to throughly test the bike this past weekend.

First I'll address the vibration that has been mentioned. I did not have any vibration in the bike in the form of buzzing your butt or hands. I did feel some in my feet but I also had a new pair of boots on so for all I know that was the way it always was. I did not loosen the mounts as recommended simply because I was chasing a noise and needed to do only one thing at a time. I also have a new front mount so when I install that I'll loosen the motor and set it up as described in the Sta-Bo information.

OK now onto the feel of the bike. I had no prior issues with my bike handling wise. Maybe I was just so use to it and was able to compensate....Because this bike handles unbelievably well now. The response is incredible. The bike compares to the handling of my sport bike, just heavier.

This will become a must do mod on any bike I own or work on. I can only imagine what a ride Str8 would add

Apr 27, 2007 | 03:14 AM

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Comfortably Numb

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dog, you believe wrong...i've ridden several with wobble, all new..youre right, they shouldnt...but do....i run a true track and it was 400 well spent...it works, stops the walkin, & is real easy to put on...ridestr8 does too....buy one

I'm right with Brian here.
I knew from experience how much my RK moved around in the rear at speed, but I had no idea how much it did at lower speeds as well, despite how imperceptible it seemed until I went and added Accu-Track. (someone else's true-Track, RideStr8, etc)
Simply stated, the improvement astounds me. My RK goes right where I point it now and feels tightened right up. The best analogy I can come up with is it feels like an 750+ pound sportbike now. (though a little shy on power)
I have a twisty, short section of road near where I live that is a little rough in places. I used to hammer my Gixxer down this stretch of road everytime I came home. (well, within reason 'cause I live in the city) Now I hammer my RK just the same, even though it weighs over 300 pounds more. I don't have to get too serious about which line I take, nor do I have to navigate around the bumps anymore. It won't get air in places like my Gixxer did, but it feels real, real solid and tight. In the past, I would have never dreamed to push it as hard as I can now. It's a whole new bike now.
I'm off to Oregon and Northern California in a couple of weeks and can't wait to rock.

True-Track, RideStr8, whatever. If you don't have one, go get one.....and get some shocks that work while you're at it.

CN

Apr 27, 2007 | 12:09 PM

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rideon

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I going to get my true track tommorow and will report in how much improvement I get. I hope I get some cause my bikes down right scary right now! I have the updated motor mount in mine and it did seem better when first installed now it's scarin the $hit out of me in sweepers again. Who knows maybe it ripped again, doin burn outs is probably hard on em.

Apr 27, 2007 | 12:32 PM

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StreetGlider56

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ORIGINAL: Bryan TTM

dog, you believe wrong...i've ridden several with wobble, all new..youre right, they shouldnt...but do....i run a true track and it was 400 well spent...it works, stops the walkin, & is real easy to put on...ridestr8 does too....buy one

Hey Bryan, Splain to me the "wobble" not that I get one I have an 07... But I just can't understand the reason behind it, Is it harmonics,
Or it this something that occurs on older bikes?
First of all I have a problem with all the "fix' upgrades to get a 20k bike to operate correct, but looking at the rear wheel, It's on a rigid
mount axle... Now the swing arm is a pivot, but seems to me if the swing arm moved around, how does securing the trans to the frame solve this?? Is it the same concept as ladder bars/traction bars on a race car? But on that you have two tracton sources left/right tires..
I don't get it... seams copper or brass swing arm bussing would solve this.. But I'm a gear head and not a bike tech...

enlighten me oh wise one...

Apr 27, 2007 | 04:49 PM

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FLGEEZ

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RE: true track riders out there

Take a credit card and hold it in one hand on two opposing edges. Take your other hand and use you opposable thumb and index finger as a pivot in the middle of your card. Your can rotate the card on it's solid axle ( your opposing thumb and index finger ). Now push them to flex the card. The Solid axle is supported in Two Rubber isolators in the frame. All the Touring bikes are. The ability for the solid axle to shift left and right ( pushing or twisting in the isolators ) is where the problem is.

Look closely at the engine/frame trike alignment in the attached. My fingers are in the space where the upper engine Heim joint reinforcing plates broke loose. The frame lug that the upper joint bolts into just snapped off. That is where one of two adjustable rigid alignment fixtures are. The other is located on the left lower frame area. These two adjustable alignment points keep the engine/frame/rear wheel in alignment ( staight line). Until at the rear whell, like the credit card, you flex the rear wheel in that opposite (90 degree) axis. On the trike the glue reinforcement failed, (bad installation) and caused the front mount to separate. The rigid link at the front mount kept the engine in line at the front, but in the turn, without the upper reinforcement, all the torque got applied to the rubber isolators and the front mount. This is an extreme explanation, and would not ever apply that amountof force to a two wheel, but should help explain why the condition dymanically can exist. Harley is now putting the third rigid link on the Sporster, according to the American Rider article.

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Apr 27, 2007 | 05:34 PM

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89FLHT

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Honestly, I'd check the rest of the bike out first. My 89 with the batwing never has headshake and I've had it over 100 out on the road and over 80 in big sweepers many times. That is with the every original motor mount and swing armbushing , except for the front motor mount that I replaced last year. If the suspension is set up right and the wheels, motor, and forks are aligned with the frame and the tires air pressure is right, it will track right for you.