Im in California, at this time other than noise you wont have any problems with aftermarket pipes and they dont scan, sniff or check ecm at this time. With the PV you can flash to stock in a minute if you needed to

 

Thanks Xaran. Just what I wanted to hear. That I could flash back to stock if I needed to. Hopefully, DynoJet will come out with the new fire/software. Looking at Bassani, 2-1, B4 exhaust. Does the PV have a flash for that pipe or have you heard of anyone installing that pipe, using the PV and their experience?

 

Kyle
Im sure that Jamie at Fuel moto can get you set up with a base MAP for what ever set up you want to go with and even if the MAP was not written for the exact setup it will be real close and then if you feel it could be better or have any popping or flat spots you can use data logging and self tuning using the PV it is super easy. Basically with the new firm wear all you do is hook up the PV, press a couple tabs to get into data logging and go for a 20 min ride, then load the new tune and do it again. Usually after 2 -3 sessions there will be no changes applied and you are as close as you can get in self tune.

 

I have to say I would rather use a "piggy back" system then having my ecm flashed..Everyone has an opinion and that's fine if you believe it after all its your bike. Bottom line they will both work. I'm really not a fan of that big *** screen on your bike but some guys like the looks, If I was going to do heavy mods like cams and head work then yes the power vision is the best way to go but other wise just put the "piggy back" on and be done with it. If your bike has to go in for warranty just take the damn thing off and go in.

 

I have the PV and have made numerous changes with head-pipes, slip-ons, and cams using the Basic auto tune. It works well if you get a base map from Jamie @ Fuel Moto. Then it will make subtle changes. You will have to make multiple tunes to get optimum performance.

 

I was running Rinehart 2-1 with an SE AC when I got my powervision. There was not a base map for that exact combo but there was a good 2-1 with stage 1 ac so I used that base map. The bike ran pretty well and after a couple of auto tune runs, I had it running very nicely. I have since added Andrews 57H cams. I got a new base map and now am auto tuning to fine tune the bike to my climate and riding style. All is working famously. I heartily endorse the powervision and the fine folks at Fuel Moto.

 

..or with the PV flash the original tune and do the same. What big *** screen are you referring to? PV? Having that mounted on bike is optional. It does not need to be there permanently.

 

The PV2 has been upgraded and firmware ready to go. I have updated mine and it has some interesting new features. Idle rpm adjust on the go or live as they call it for one. the VE table now has Map KPA position which is % load and also has Throttle position VE tables. You can use either one. Problem is it is only on the 2014 strategies for the map stuff. The PCV is still coming soon so it isn't ready yet. There is one other major difference in the PV and PCV besides the piggy back. The ECM on the bike uses % load to know where it is on the map. The PV uses this same strategy. I am talking Touring 09 to 13. The PCV uses throttle position only to communicate with the ECM for spark and fuel. What I am saying is the PV is more in line with what the ECM needs to make its adjustment. If you are accelerating the the load will be in the 80 to 100% range on spark and airflow. The PV will be in the same range with the throttle position in the 15 to 50% range. The map on the PCV may show adding 0 fuel in this area. In reality the ECM is really needing 10 to 20% more fuel which would be in the 80 to 100% throttle position for the PCV. You may not notice this unless you have run both type tuners. The Flashing type will be much more response in the partial throttle positions. At 100% not much difference if maps are the same. You can always richen the 15 to 60% area on the PCV and it will pull better under part throttle loads as accelerating up to speed. Problem is when you go into cruise where mileage is a concern you will loose 3 to 8 mpg depending on your riding style. With a flash tuner you can add timing and reduce fuel in the cruise area 30 to 60% load area is cruise area. With a stock engine stage 1 that is around 80 on the VE and from 36 to 45° of timing. You will only be at 15 to 25% throttle position. If you accelerate you will go to the 80 to 100% area and still may not be but 40 throttle position but the ECM will be using 90 to 100 on the VE table and the timing will be down around 15 to 30° of timing depending on rpm. The PCV will still be using the settings in the 40% throttle area. Hope this makes sense to you. Not saying the PCV doesn't work good. I like the extra functions of the PV as there are many more functions that will help with tuning particularly if you add cams and or compression.

 

That's a shame if you have to do that.
I've had the PV going on two years and the bike has been in three different dealers (road trips) for warranty work... they didn't even blink at the 'screen'... just wanted to know more how I liked it and its capabilities...
in fact one shop the wrench took it for a test ride and I noticed he had been fiddling with it... I don't leave it on the bike any more...
...warranty/service work in the dealership -- no problems, no hassles, no arguments...
but that's just my experience...

 

October issue of American Iron mag has a great article on the power vision