Closed loop fuel management system
Road Master
Joined: Jul 2010
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From: Centeral Coast, California
Yeah, I kind of thought that myself. "$400 and you can have one" sounds like an advertisement. I have known of people who used this system and it is OK if you are just doing pipes and air cleaner. For more than that it didn't work so well.
From Direct Cycle Parts you can have a Power Vision for $420. Then you have the ability to adjust for almost anything and build as far as you like. You can also download a map that is good for ac and exhaust. You can auto-tune with the stock O2 sensors or add the Pro Auto-tune with wide band O2 sensors. In my opinion (I am using one) they are superior to any other system I have tried. (Thunder-Max, PCV, EMS, Daytona TwinTech) All the other systems worked, just not as well as the Power Vision.
Did that sound like an advertisement?
From Direct Cycle Parts you can have a Power Vision for $420. Then you have the ability to adjust for almost anything and build as far as you like. You can also download a map that is good for ac and exhaust. You can auto-tune with the stock O2 sensors or add the Pro Auto-tune with wide band O2 sensors. In my opinion (I am using one) they are superior to any other system I have tried. (Thunder-Max, PCV, EMS, Daytona TwinTech) All the other systems worked, just not as well as the Power Vision.
Did that sound like an advertisement?
Last edited by gipper; Nov 3, 2013 at 10:12 AM. Reason: additional thought
Road Warrior
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From: Mesquite Tx
I don't understand spending 23k on a bike and then try to take the cheap way out on the tuning. I'm by no means rich and I'm not trying to flame anyone but I believe in you get what you pay for. Buy a good head pipe, some tuned mufflers, and a good high flow air cleaner and then tune it with a reliable product.
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Cruiser
Joined: Oct 2013
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From: Knoxville, IA
Why do you say that? Not sure what you mean. It was an honest question...I'm certainly not trying to sell anything. Just came across this and wanted to ask questions about it. If I were trying to sell it, I would have been bragging about it, not asking about it, dont you think?
I'm just trying to get some information about tuners for possible future purchase. I guess I was being more sarcastic than anything.
I'm just trying to get some information about tuners for possible future purchase. I guess I was being more sarcastic than anything.
Last edited by ncracer86; Nov 3, 2013 at 10:30 AM.
Why do you say that? Not sure what you mean. It was an honest question...I'm certainly not trying to sell anything. Just came across this and wanted to ask questions about it. If I were trying to sell it, I would have been bragging about it, not asking about it, dont you think?
I'm just trying to get some information about tuners for possible future purchase. I guess I was being more sarcastic than anything.
I'm just trying to get some information about tuners for possible future purchase. I guess I was being more sarcastic than anything.
Road Captain
Joined: Sep 2013
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From: Rochester NY
After trying to learn all I can (Ive had carburetors for many years) and watching video's of the power Vision PV-2, I will be ordering that, new pipes and A/C.
Fuel Moto has them for $479.00 where are they for $420 and is there something different I'm missing for the price difference?
Fuel Moto has them for $479.00 where are they for $420 and is there something different I'm missing for the price difference?
After trying to learn all I can (Ive had carburetors for many years) and watching video's of the power Vision PV-2, I will be ordering that, new pipes and A/C.
Fuel Moto has them for $479.00 where are they for $420 and is there something different I'm missing for the price difference?
Fuel Moto has them for $479.00 where are they for $420 and is there something different I'm missing for the price difference?
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From: wet coast BC
It is interesting how many suppliers are getting on board providing the latest tuning gizmo, and how many people will exclude the proven ones and try the latest offering.
Those of us that have used SEPST, TTS, PV or Thundermax or dyno time are aware of the amount of maps and cells in each that can be adjusted. we sure are wasting our time when this device does it all.
To believe that any add on plug-in can do this on the fly can do this by just plugging it in for $400 is just amazing.
Those of us that have used SEPST, TTS, PV or Thundermax or dyno time are aware of the amount of maps and cells in each that can be adjusted. we sure are wasting our time when this device does it all.
To believe that any add on plug-in can do this on the fly can do this by just plugging it in for $400 is just amazing.
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From: Santa Cruz
It is interesting how many suppliers are getting on board providing the latest tuning gizmo, and how many people will exclude the proven ones and try the latest offering.
Those of us that have used SEPST, TTS, PV or Thundermax or dyno time are aware of the amount of maps and cells in each that can be adjusted. we sure are wasting our time when this device does it all.
To believe that any add on plug-in can do this on the fly can do this by just plugging it in for $400 is just amazing.
Those of us that have used SEPST, TTS, PV or Thundermax or dyno time are aware of the amount of maps and cells in each that can be adjusted. we sure are wasting our time when this device does it all.
To believe that any add on plug-in can do this on the fly can do this by just plugging it in for $400 is just amazing.
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From: 'Noke, VA
Exactly!!!! I am a complete idiot on all this stuff but I got my bike with an add on Dobeck the seller raved about. It had crazy hot exhaust heat and pinged like crazy? The canned map I got with PCV from Fuelmoto was terrible. Autotune at least made it ridable. First dyno was pretty good but second one made a nice difference (along with big bore and cams). Going to a PV and redyno (with headwork) to get back closed loop operation. I can't believe guys throw thousand+ into pipes & A/C then won't tune them????
For me, there's no way I'm going cheap when it comes to monkeying around with the computer that makes the bike run.
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