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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 09:22 AM
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This winter I'm adding CCE top triple tree and springs, etc., so I'll have the front of my 09 SG apart. Good time to change bearings. You folks believers in the Timken sealed bearings? http://www.jpcycles.com/product/230-411. I think as a general rule sealed are better.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by jefla
This winter I'm adding CCE top triple tree and springs, etc., so I'll have the front of my 09 SG apart. Good time to change bearings. You folks believers in the Timken sealed bearings? http://www.jpcycles.com/product/230-411. I think as a general rule sealed are better.
You have to remember though, that these are not a true sealed bearing. They are sealed to the extent that since I greased and installed them, I haven't had to wipe any goo from the front of my bike. And in my case, how I actually packed them was with one of these....

http://www.grainger.com/product/WEST...TC7?s_pp=false

Same way I did the bearings on my Sportster. Which brings up another point. The MOCO didn't put grease fittings on XL's, did they? Insert this needle between all the rollers, and inject grease until it comes out. To hard to pack this type of bearing by hand since the seal is made onto the bearing.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Gliden
I use that mercury marine gimbal bearing grease. (for boats) lol
Blue stuff. Waterproof and drip proof in high heat.
Me too, a little forethought is warranted before arbitrarily breaking out the grease gun.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by xwhyz1959
Only you said it was greasless. I stated that I packed them, with good hi temp grease, before I installed the sealed bearings. And being that no grease has ever dripped out of my steering neck since then, I think it's safe to say that they are still packed with grease. And since my fall away is still as smooth as silk, I'm not worried about anything when it comes to my steering.
Sealed bearings DO NOT last as long as properly maintained, conventional bearings.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Lowcountry Joe
Yes that's a good product. I used it in mine. But after about 2 years, I have notices some weeping down the cowbell on the left side.

I may try some of the marine grade grease and see if it does better. The red **** is a real mess when it comes out, and even just a little.

Sidenote...hd really puts money in their pockets by requiring a complete tear down of the 2014 steering head at 25,000 miles. That's bullshit.
just think of the money the dealers are going to make off of this. i like to have the ability for maintenance. don't mind repacking neck or wheel bearing and then you get to inspect them at the same time. don't like any of this sealed ****.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 10:26 AM
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you know....when the 2014 goes in for head bearing work, it is too easy to drill and tap, and isnert a Zerk fitting....

I didn't know Mobil1 made grease....

Thanks for all the info guys!

~Joe
 
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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Wanna Ride
Sealed bearings DO NOT last as long as properly maintained, conventional bearings.
Well, seeing that the rollers in my neck bearings may rotate 2, or 3 complete revolutions during a full range of steering motion, I think it's safe to say these bearings will last me my lifetime. And as I stated above, these bearings that we are reffering to....

http://www.jpcycles.com/product/230-411

are not a true sealed bearing. Why is everybody so hung up on calling this obviously NON sealed bearing, a sealed bearing?
 
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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by xwhyz1959
You have to remember though, that these are not a true sealed bearing. They are sealed to the extent that since I greased and installed them, I haven't had to wipe any goo from the front of my bike. And in my case, how I actually packed them was with one of these....

http://www.grainger.com/product/WEST...TC7?s_pp=false

Same way I did the bearings on my Sportster. Which brings up another point. The MOCO didn't put grease fittings on XL's, did they? Insert this needle between all the rollers, and inject grease until it comes out. To hard to pack this type of bearing by hand since the seal is made onto the bearing.
Anyone tried greasing front wheel bearings with this?
 
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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by HDSAE60
I put 20 pumps in my neck and didn't see any come out. Going to ride it. And put a few more in, till I see it coming out.
I wouldn`t put anymore grease in it until you determine if the bottom seal is still intact. You may have popped the seal already putting in 20 pumps, or the seal may already have been ruptured. By summertime you will find out if the grease stayed in there when the heat melts it enough to run out.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by hardheaded
just think of the money the dealers are going to make off of this. i like to have the ability for maintenance. don't mind repacking neck or wheel bearing and then you get to inspect them at the same time. don't like any of this sealed ****.
That`s it! Personally, I don`t think it would EVER need to be regreased as long as it wasn`t exposed to a pressure washer. And the other more important thing to realize is that the bearing doesn`t move all that much in the first place. Probably amounts to 60* maximum of a full rotation, not like a spinning wheel. So, the bearing will have far less wear on it than something which rotates fully and at speed, like a wheel bearing or something in the engine or tranny.
 
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