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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 10:21 AM
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I'll be doing the work myself. Thanks for the info Hippie. Thats a good idea to save some money. So you guys would recommend using a dyno tune along with the Power Vision? I thought you told them your set-up and they send you the maps for what you have?
 
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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 11:04 AM
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So you guys would recommend using a dyno tune along with the Power Vision? I thought you told them your set-up and they send you the maps for what you have?
Wow… there is a can of worms…. a lot of different opinions on this

My 2 cents…

A) There is nothing better than a proper dyno tune to make your bike run it's absolute best! ……..
The downside to a dyno tune- Not all dyno tuners are the same. There are some great ones and there are some crap ones. Finding a truly competent dyno tuner is not as easy as it should be…..

B) If you get a canned map for your combination of mods from FuelMoto, your bike will run great…..
If you run a few basic auto tunes to dial in your VE tables, your bike will run really great! If you develop any specific issues, FuelMoto and/or DynoJet will tweak your tune to fix it.

Will it be as good as a proper dyno tune….NO….. Will you be able to tell the difference between A & B…. for a street bike, probably not.

I went with B on both my bikes, both are stage 2 (cams), and they are running awesome…. I have never felt the need to get a dyno on either of them
 
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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 11:12 AM
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Hello,

We would love to help you find everything you need. We can set up the Power Vision for you before we send it out. We have built up a large database of custom maps and should be able to get the one you need no problem.

If you have any questions about anything, please feel free to call us. We always offer free tech support and have first hand experience with many products.

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Hey Guys,
Im preparing to order quite a few items...
-Power Vision
-Cams
-Handlebars
-Air Cleaner
-Exhaust
And maybe a couple other items I might be forgetting. My question is, of all of the aftermarket dealers, which is the best for price since I'll be spending a hell of a lot anyway?
I've been looking at Direct Cycle Parts. They seem to have everything there. Any better ideas??
 
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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 11:48 AM
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If you're serious about saving money, and you're willing to do some work your own self (a rare thing in the age of the Internet and forums), make a list of the parts you want in the far left column. Along the top of the matrix you're building, list the possible suppliers. Research (what, research, oh NO!) the cost of the parts you want, fill in the squares in the matrix.

When that's done, add up the totals for all the parts per supplier along the bottom. Factor in shipping and sales tax, and you'll have your answer. It's really the only certain way to do it.

For instance, when I was restoring my '65 Chevy pickup...before the days of the interweb, had to go out and get the hard catalogs and do this the old fashioned way, but I was still able to do it...I put together this same sort of matrix. What I found out was that the prices in general were cheaper between one outfit in St. Louis and another in Huntington Beach, about 90 miles away from me. Because the St. Louis company offered free shipping for orders over $299, and no sales tax, I would use them for big orders, and saved significant money. For smaller orders, I was often better off using the more local company.

Yes, a lot of work, but there is NO easy answer, and NONE of us are gonna be able to give you the definitive answer... we can rave about the suppliers we use, but we are also biased because of our loyalty to certain suppliers.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 12:58 PM
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Im doing the research in my spare time (got a bathroom remodel goin on too), and I'll be doing the work to my bike myself as well. Im a helicopter mechanic by trade, so its no big deal. Im not too familiar with the mapping the ecm, but I'll get that info when I get the PV.
A BIG thanks to all that have responded! As I said....this is my 1st HD, so Im learning more about the bike as I go.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by hattitude
Wow… there is a can of worms…. a lot of different opinions on this

My 2 cents…

A) There is nothing better than a proper dyno tune to make your bike run it's absolute best! ……..
The downside to a dyno tune- Not all dyno tuners are the same. There are some great ones and there are some crap ones. Finding a truly competent dyno tuner is not as easy as it should be…..

B) If you get a canned map for your combination of mods from FuelMoto, your bike will run great…..
If you run a few basic auto tunes to dial in your VE tables, your bike will run really great! If you develop any specific issues, FuelMoto and/or DynoJet will tweak your tune to fix it.

Will it be as good as a proper dyno tune….NO….. Will you be able to tell the difference between A & B…. for a street bike, probably not.

I went with B on both my bikes, both are stage 2 (cams), and they are running awesome…. I have never felt the need to get a dyno on either of them
I would agree with everything except, you will feel a difference between a canned map (from fuelmoto), even after autotuning (pro autotune) and a proper dyno tune. While it ran OK and I may have only picked up 5 ft lbs and 3 hp, it is a completely different bike after a proper tune. Well worth it to me! BTW Fuelmoto only has canned maps for the combos they sell (Woods cams).
 
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Old Jan 14, 2015 | 07:00 PM
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I took note that both DirectCycleParts.com and Eastern Performance chimed in offering deals. I'm sure they can do better if you call them but just a heads up that EP has a promo code going on right now for HDForum members for 5% off your order. Just put in "Forum5" at checkout and it'll knock the 5% off.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2015 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 0ldhippie
I would agree with everything except, you will feel a difference between a canned map (from fuelmoto), even after autotuning (pro autotune) and a proper dyno tune. While it ran OK and I may have only picked up 5 ft lbs and 3 hp, it is a completely different bike after a proper tune. Well worth it to me! BTW Fuelmoto only has canned maps for the combos they sell (Woods cams).
I agree.. Canned maps are no good for open loop systems.
 
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Originally Posted by 0ldhippie
I would agree with everything except, you will feel a difference between a canned map (from fuelmoto), even after autotuning (pro autotune) and a proper dyno tune. While it ran OK and I may have only picked up 5 ft lbs and 3 hp, it is a completely different bike after a proper tune. Well worth it to me! BTW Fuelmoto only has canned maps for the combos they sell (Woods cams).
Thanks for sharing your experience. If I ever find a competent tuner in my area, I plan to have a dyno tune just to compare...
 
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