Hey guys

Im looking to upgrade my pipes to a full set on a 2012 SG. I know from what Ive been told, if I want to do the full system, I need to do pipes, air filter and something along the lines of a power commander. I was hoping to do the work myself, but obviously I dont have that much knowledge on it all. SO my question is...is the computer portion of it difficult to do? And what recommendations can you give me on what to get in that department?

 

many of us use nightrider.com xieds.

Probably cost you under $130.

2 modules plug inline with the o2 sensors.

easy.

I have written up how they work/what they do.

and of course nightrider.com has info.

some riders desire a more complex device, which can raise the rev limit or allow the owner to retune for later motor work. or they just want to be able to fiddle around with parameters

the xieds work for me.

My 09 has a no cat header, hi flow intake and hi flow supertrapp slip ons- a classic "stage 1"

Mike

 

Everything on this is easy as pie. The parts come with instructions and all you will need is a small tool kit (sears sells em for less than $100 which is way cheaper than what you will pay to have someone do the work for you).

The intake only has like 4 bolts and a connector and it comes right off. Installation is the same as removal except for replacing the o-ring if the new one didnt come with one.

Head pipe is just as simple...two each bolts on each pipe to the cylinder, the mid mount bolts and the two bolts that connect the slip ons to the mid pipe. Only difficult part of this is when you replace the head pipe gaskets. The old ones may need to be peeled off with a pick or screwdriver (be careful not to scrape too hard because you may scratch the mounting surface). Lining up and installing the new head pipe gaskets takes a little patience but it far from difficult.

Slip ons are only two bolts holding it to the bag rails and the one clamp bolt that mounts it to the head pipe. Installation is reverse of removal. If you have a hard time removing the slip on from the head pipe, just wiggle it up and down and side to side until it comes off. You wont damage anything.

As far as tuner....if you go with a Power Commander 5, it is plug and play. All you do is remove your seat, unplug the two O2 sensors and tie the ends off with zip tie. The power commander plugs into your computer USB and you just go to the power commander site and download a map that's similar to your setup (there are probably 50 or so on there so it wont be hard to find one similar to yours, even a map with similar atmosphere conditions is there). Once you download the map (which is actually faster than you can blink your eye...seriously), the two plugs on the Power Commander 5 plug into the main harness and then into the computer.

That's it. It should take you less than 2 hours to do everything. I replaced cams, did the intake/headpipe/exhaust and did a little modification to the stock slip ons and it took me all of about 3 hours. That was with many beer breaks in-between! Good luck and pm me if you have any questions.

 

I did a set of true duals, Screamin Eagle high flow A/C and a Power Vision from Fuel Moto all myself. I didn't think it wasn't difficult at all. All plug-n-play. Good luck and this place has a plethora of information and knowledgable people.

 

I have used quite a few methods of fuel management.

From a FuelPak to TTS to PV2

The EASIEST is the PV-2, and if you buy it from Fuel Moto (sponsor here) you get GREAT customer service and support.

And there are a LOT of guys here with a LOT of knowledge. I was very nervous before I did an auto tune run the first time, but was amazed at how easy it is. Sent my map to a friend, and he was impressed with the amount of data I collected...

 

It's an easy job and the fuel tuners mentioned are easy to the PC-v is plug and play with a preloaded map from fuel moto or the power vision simple flash and go. The xieds are nice to I have a buddy that has those. Either way yiu go is not a bad choice.