Touring Models Road King, Road King Custom, Road King Classic, Road Glide, Street Glide, Electra Glide, Electra Glide Classic, and Electra Glide Ultra Classic bikes.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

21" fat spoke front wheel advice

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 27, 2014 | 10:43 PM
  #11  
bellgnte's Avatar
bellgnte
Road Master
15 Year Member
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 866
Likes: 2
From: Pocahontas, IL
Default

Originally Posted by flhtp9602
I run the same set up as turrent on my 96 flht except I run a Metzler me880..had to drill out rear fender hole to 3/8 and roll fender forward a tad for clearence... taped a 1\4 nut on tire spunit a few times good to go rides handles well with 21 front and 16 rear
I just installed the same tires and wheels on mine. Rides great and looks awesome. I used a 3/8 nut though.

need to update the sig pic...forgot about that
 
Reply
Old Mar 27, 2014 | 11:00 PM
  #12  
Hogpro's Avatar
Hogpro
Former Sponsor
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 10,968
Likes: 54
Default

The bottom line is that a sealed spoke wheel is more susceptible to issues than running a tube. We all know I sell wheels for a living. Please set that aside for a minute so that I can draw on my own personal experience with various brands and issues as I have run fat spoke wheels on several of my bikes for many years and I feel that this information is important as after putting close to 100K miles on fat spoke wheels everyone can benefit from my experience. Yes, I may be the only wheel salesman that actually rides a Harley to work every day as well. Thus, I am in a better position to explain this than a guy who has had his wheels for a month or a year, etc.

First off, think about how much you want to spend. If you want the least expensive fat spoke wheel get a DNA or Ultima. I don't sell DNA or Ultima and know that if there is a brand I do not sell that I could potentially profit from (we are a business and need to make money to keep out doors open and pay our employees as well as survive this brutal economy) there is a good reason. We all know that DNA products come from overseas. So be it. "The global economy" is what it is and I cannot change that but will do what I can to keep my fellow Americans employed and if that means buying a product that costs more for my extremely expensive American motorcycle I will do it every time. Can I afford this stuff on my budget? Not really but I buy it anyway.

That is just my pride. Do I make a lot of money? Not a chance. Do I prioritize in order to be able to buy what I want? I do.

So as far as fat spoke wheels go there are three or four brands out there. I have sold 3 of the 4 brands and run 3 of the 4 on my own personal bikes. Did I mention I actually have used these products for thousands of miles? I think I did twice now.

My first set of fat spokes was a set of the DNA Mammoths. I ran a 21x3 and a 16x3.5 on my softail in chrome. I stretched a skinny 90/21 WWW tire on the front wheel as this was before Vee rubber had the 120/70/21 tire. Way back when. The wheels were great for a while. These wheels were "sealed" and fine for a while. Probably at least a year. When I put new tires on they would not hold air anymore. I took them and had tubes put in them. Never had an issue with a tube. The only "hassle" was getting the dyna beads in the tube and that was not a big deal at all although before I worked for a motorcycle shop I would take my wheels to shops and ask them to put beads in the tires and they would look at me like I was crazy. "You are going to have to pay extra for that" they said. Fine I said, charge me. Whatever. That took an extra 5 minutes and never actually ended up costing any extra.

Next I heard that Vee Rubber had come out with a 120/70/21 white wall. This is when the white walls were really yellow. I got one anyway. I put this on my DNA wheel (with a tube of course as it would not hold air without it) . The bike rode so much smooth and handled so much better that it was not even funny. Never had an issue with the tire not holding up and I put my bikes through their paces...a lot.

Next I decided to get a set of Ride Wrights as I had started working for a shop and worked out a deal I could afford as an MC parts salesman on a new set of fat spokes. This time I got a 21x3.5, Vee rubber front tire and Avon rear. I did not notice a difference with the 3-3.5 wide rim but got the new wheels as they were done a little different with powder coated spokes. I sold my DNA's on Craigslist for $700 with rotors, tires and pulley. The guy that bought them thought he won the lottery!

These wheels worked fine as I ran them with tubes. They stayed on the bike until I traded it for another bike. Never had an issue with the tubes. Next I bought a Dyna and got some Sinister Big Daddy's in all black with chrome nipples. I ran these with tubes as well. Never had a problem and sold the bike about a year and a half later. I only put about 30K on that bike but rode that thing like a bat out of hell all the time. Not one issue.

Back to the 90/21 white wall on a 21x3 wheel. A friend of mine (who used to be on the forums) bent two rims with the 90/21 on his Ride Wright rims. I know as I saw it happen and was with him when he purchased the wheels from HogPro long before I worked here. He is the reason we will not mount a 90/21 on a 3 or 3.5" width rim. Liability is what it is and I do not want customers bending wheels. If I see the possibility of an issue with a product I sell I do not sell it anymore. It is not worth the time or hassle for us or the customer. We pay good money for this stuff and who wants to spend that money and then have an issue? Nobody does. That is why HogPro sells the Sinsiter fat spoke rims, not DNA, Ultima, or Ride Wright. We have seen too many issues with the others and have sold both DNA and Ride Wright in the past. Is there anything wrong with these other brands? Nope. They are what they are and no company has a perfect record.

I leave choices like this in the hands of my customers as it is their money, their bike and their life in their own hands. Choose whatever brand works for you for whatever reason. If you guys have questions please feel free to call us at the shop as being in the wheel business for well over 10 years has given us a fair amount of insight and probably more combined experience than your local internet bargain basement store. We are not high pressure sales people. These are wheels for a luxury motorcycle, not penny stocks that we are selling. We realize that. We sell dreams like the stock broker in The Wolf of Wall Street but we are not promising to make you rich or make you ride better, only that your bike will have a much more pleasing aesthetic once you put a set of wheels on it.

Whatever you choose for your ride, may it be the right choice. When I get a chance I will find some pics of my bikes with these varying wheels and get them posted but it has been a long day and I am beat.
 
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2014 | 02:15 AM
  #13  
banjoplayer2's Avatar
banjoplayer2
Cruiser
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 249
Likes: 0
From: Lebanon, Mo
Default

Yea,,tires just are a bad place to go bargain IMHO.
 
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2014 | 02:10 PM
  #14  
bikehunter's Avatar
bikehunter
Thread Starter
|
Tourer
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 331
Likes: 9
From: Hampshire UK
Default

Originally Posted by DynaJ
well I guess I'm going to tell you the down side, I have DNA mammoth fat spokes, That being said I run tubes the only reason I do is because you will get some leak down if you don't maybe you will be lucky but more guys have leak down issues that don't. Actually I would look at sinister wheels they have a fat spoke called fat daddy I believe. Some manufactures run a 3.25 wide front wheel, I have ran them and they are no different than the 3.5. So you think that getting a puncture in a front tubed tire is bad? Is it because you think you can plug it and keep on rolling? Maybe but I would never do that. I personally would rather put a new tube in it or buy a new tire but each to their own. You wanna buy mine?.. I think I'm going with different wheels here pretty soon! Make you a hell of a deal...
Well I have plugged my rear tyre on my Husky with no ill effects, thats what us poor English folk do!
Old school, if you can make it last then do it, incidently the plug kit comes from the US and its the best I've used.
I would be interested in your set, does it have a rear and if so what size is it?
 

Last edited by bikehunter; Mar 28, 2014 at 02:12 PM. Reason: typo
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2014 | 09:24 PM
  #15  
DynaJ's Avatar
DynaJ
Road Master
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 1,240
Likes: 14
From: lancaster,ca
Default

The front is a 21 inch, the rear is 16 inch...shoot me am offer you never know...
 
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2014 | 10:05 PM
  #16  
bhm07's Avatar
bhm07
Cruiser
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 215
Likes: 1
From: Grande Prairie Alberta
Default

I am running sinister big daddies from Hog Pro with 120/21. lowered the front. bike rides great and looks even better.

21" fat spoke front wheel advice-may-bike.jpg

21" fat spoke front wheel advice-img_1258-1-2.jpg
 
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2014 | 01:51 AM
  #17  
cweiss's Avatar
cweiss
Road Master
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,022
Likes: 70
From: Greensboro NC
Default

Ultima King spoke 21x3.5 on the front with a tube. No real issues so far since the tube.
 
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2014 | 08:41 AM
  #18  
rkcmike63's Avatar
rkcmike63
Cruiser
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 139
Likes: 2
From: Valdosta, Ga
Default

I have Ride Wright 21x3.5 with a Metzler 880's. It's a 90 series with a tube to round it out. I get compliments all the time. Just can't hit huge pot holes... Can warp a rim... Love them like they are!
 
Attached Thumbnails 21" fat spoke front wheel advice-image.jpg  

Last edited by rkcmike63; Mar 29, 2014 at 08:44 AM. Reason: Add photo
Reply
HD Forum Stories

The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders

story-0

Harley-Davidson Fat Boy Becomes a Dark, Decepticon-Inspired Custom

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Weirdest Harley-Davidsons Ever Sold to the Public

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-5

10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-6

Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Mar 30, 2014 | 01:40 PM
  #19  
bikehunter's Avatar
bikehunter
Thread Starter
|
Tourer
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 331
Likes: 9
From: Hampshire UK
Default

Originally Posted by rkcmike63
I have Ride Wright 21x3.5 with a Metzler 880's. It's a 90 series with a tube to round it out. I get compliments all the time. Just can't hit huge pot holes... Can warp a rim... Love them like they are!
Love the look of your bike. Its something that I have not considered about potholes, we have so many here at the moment. May have to consider this a little more closly.

WOW! just been on the site of Ridewright, I'm sure you certainly get what you pay for. How does the DNA standard compared to these?
 

Last edited by bikehunter; Mar 30, 2014 at 01:44 PM. Reason: added
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2014 | 01:49 PM
  #20  
bikehunter's Avatar
bikehunter
Thread Starter
|
Tourer
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 331
Likes: 9
From: Hampshire UK
Default

Originally Posted by DynaJ
The front is a 21 inch, the rear is 16 inch...shoot me am offer you never know...
I have a problem with your wheels, its my bike has 3/4" rear spindle, I'm going to get a later swing arm but they are a problem to buy here at the moment so I will have to say no for now, the front would be OK as that is 1" unless its 24.5mm.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
No U Glider
Wheels/Tires
3
Oct 10, 2018 09:52 PM
Shawrco
Touring Models
6
Nov 21, 2011 01:18 PM
linck241
Frame/Suspension/Front End/Brakes
14
Feb 5, 2008 06:35 PM
harris48cars
Touring Models
14
Apr 27, 2007 05:39 PM
nafarmboy
Touring Models
6
Apr 17, 2007 10:49 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:31 PM.

story-0
Harley-Davidson Fat Boy Becomes a Dark, Decepticon-Inspired Custom

Slideshow: Killer Custom's latest build relies on styling changes rather than performance upgrades, giving the cruiser an entirely different personality.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 18:28:05


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Weirdest Harley-Davidsons Ever Sold to the Public

Slideshow: From military-inspired singles to scooters and three-wheel utility vehicles, these Harleys took the company far outside its comfort zone.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-02 18:34:10


VIEW MORE
story-2
7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson built its reputation on nostalgia, but every so often, the company took a hard left turn into the future.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-20 11:18:19


VIEW MORE
story-3
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

Slideshow: The bar-and-shield logo shows up on far more than motorcycles, some of the company's most unexpected products have nothing to do with riding.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 16:50:35


VIEW MORE
story-4
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: Not every Harley gets it right, but these are the ones that genuinely earned their reputation.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-15 14:23:21


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: From the troubled AMF years to modern misfires, these bikes earned reputations for reliability issues, questionable engineering, or disappointing performance.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-01 20:01:09


VIEW MORE
story-6
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

Slideshow: Killer Custom's "Jail Breaker" build focuses more on stance and visual aggression than mechanical overhaul.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-18 19:20:32


VIEW MORE
story-7
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

Slideshow: The Swiss custom shop has taken a Harley Softail and stretched it into something so long and low that it looks closer to a rolling sculpture than a conventional motorcycle.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-07 16:15:30


VIEW MORE
story-8
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's new RMCR concept revives the café racer formula with modern hardware-and it may be exactly the reset the company needs.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-04 12:23:37


VIEW MORE
story-9
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

Slideshow: A standard cruiser becomes an intricate metal canvas in the hands of a Swiss custom house known for pushing Harley-Davidson platforms far beyond their factory brief.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-02-24 18:19:44


VIEW MORE