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Old Apr 10, 2014 | 02:45 PM
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http://rainmagic.com/
 
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Old Apr 10, 2014 | 03:58 PM
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Good question! There have been a wide variety of similar products over the years and I have tried a few. Never found them good enough to buy a second one though! We could do with a volunteer to try that stuff out.........
 
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Who the hell is GE? I've been using Harley gloss on my bikes windshield and entire bike for years. I think it works the same as rainex. Plus it has UV protectant that keeps your windshield from fogging out over time. If it's one less thing to buy, and does the job on paint ,chrome and plastic , it's for me.,,
 
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Old Apr 10, 2014 | 04:18 PM
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Who the hell is GE?
General Electric! They introduced Lexan used for bike windshields by Harley and others.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2014 | 04:08 AM
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Good question! There have been a wide variety of similar products over the years and I have tried a few. Never found them good enough to buy a second one though! We could do with a volunteer to try that stuff out.........
Bugs and oncoming lights at night are a pain when it rains. With or without the water repellent you must stop to clean your windscreen.

A few wiper free prototype vehicles were abandoned because of mosquitoes.
Unfortunately no low mass material will stop UVc rays from fogging plastic nor glass. Its just a matter of time.
 
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Polymer rain repellents are nothing new, and are effective. So it does likely work. It's just not a break through and not something new and amazing.

As true polymer repellents are fast reactive, I am highly suspicious of such a product coming in a conventional squirt bottle. True polymer repellents are typically in glass vials and the like, which you break and then quickly use. A true polymer in a squirt bottle would react to the air and solidify, rendering the squirt bottle useless.

The rain repellents that do come in squirt bottles are typically oil based instead. Rain-X being a long established classic example of this (banana oil in fact). Again, effective, but not new or break through, and not a polymer either.

Their web page is poorly done, with multiple dead links and fluff, which is not indicative of a quality company or product. No doubt you are supposed to assume G.E. means General Electric, but really there is no reason for you to assume that. Especially since there is no trademark or copywrite symbol behind G.E. So it could just as easily mean Gary Entmire, and in fact is more likely to actually mean something like that.
 
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When scuba diving, or snorkeling...

We learn to spit on the inside of our face masks, and swish it around, to prevent fogging of the glass during the dive. That stuff is probably just camel spit, or monkey snot, in a bottle!

The domain name is registered to Ali Hosein, of Lake Worth, Florida. I may just be right about the camel spit/monkey snot!
 

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... As true polymer repellents are fast reactive ...
Do you know what is the maximum (linear) speed of such a reaction when it occurs ?

 
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Do you know what is the maximum (linear) speed of such a reaction when it occurs ?


I don't know that there is a maximum rate. Use superglues as an example. You can get fast set or slow set. Then you make either of them set up almost instantly with an accelerator. Same would apply to rain repellents.
 
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I don't know that there is a maximum rate. Use superglues as an example. You can get fast set or slow set. Then you make either of them set up almost instantly with an accelerator. Same would apply to rain repellents.
I learned from a senior chemist that a perfectly balanced chemical reaction can be as fast as the speed of sound. Nothing to do with insects though

And to make it easy to remember: the more hardener in the mixture, the softer the compound (typ. epoxy)
 

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