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Old Apr 10, 2014 | 03:58 PM
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Default Set Screw Size for Rider Backrest?

Guys, the setscrew to adjust the rider backrest pad is missing from the backrest that I just received!

Apart from a 3/16" hex head, what length/width set screw do I need to get?

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the machine screw is 1/2" long.

it is 5/16" NC ( National Coarse, which is 18 threads per inch ( TPI)

you can use any 5/16" NC bolt you want.
it would have a head that takes a 1/2" wrench (wrench heads are 3/16" larger than the bolt shaft, the shaft is the rated "size" of the bolt)

the correct replacement for the stock would a "button head" allen, 5/16" NC, x 1/2" ( button head means the head is domed)

use a little locktite or nail polish to gum up the threads some so that the replacement bolt can't rattle out on you

I have posted before on how to tighten up the 2 pivot bolts when they get loose and floppy on you, you can search for that when it's time

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Originally Posted by mkguitar
the machine screw is 1/2" long.

it is 5/16" NC ( National Coarse, which is 18 threads per inch ( TPI)

you can use any 5/16" NC bolt you want.
it would have a head that takes a 1/2" wrench (wrench heads are 3/16" larger than the bolt shaft, the shaft is the rated "size" of the bolt)

the correct replacement for the stock would a a button head allen, 5/16" NC, x 1/2"

use a little locktite or nail polish to gum up the threads some so that the replacement bolt can't rattle out on you

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Old Apr 10, 2014 | 04:38 PM
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home depot, lowes any of them will have.


If you like Teles look at Nash Guitars.

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Originally Posted by mkguitar
the correct replacement for the stock would a "button head" allen, 5/16" NC, x 1/2" ( button head means the head is domed)
Hold the phone, mkguitar!

I'm looking at the installation instructions for a Rider Backrest Mounting Hardware Kit. On page 2, under Backrest Pad Adjustment, it reads, "Use 3/16 inch hex wrench to adjust set screw that is accessible through eyelet opening on rear of pad."

Is it 5/16" or 3/16"?
 
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Old Apr 10, 2014 | 04:48 PM
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the bolt is 5/16" NC x 1/2"

we are sizing the bolt, not the tool to drive the bolt.



the size of an allen head wrench is not always proportional to the bolt size.

The size of a hex head is:
a 5/16 bolt hex head takes a 1/2" wrench.... a 1/4" bolt hex takes a 7/16" wrench...and so on.
the head is 3/16" larger than the bolt.

so a 1/2" hex bolt takes a 11/16" wrench.
...... 8/16" + 3/16" = 11/16


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Originally Posted by mkguitar
the bolt is 5/16" NC x 1/2"

we are sizing the bolt, not the tool to drive the bolt.

the size of an allen head wrench is not always proportional to the bolt size.

The size of a hex head is:
a 5/16 bolt hex head takes a 1/2" wrench.... a 1/4" bolt hex takes a 7/16" wrench...and so on.
the head is 3/16" larger than the bolt.

so a 1/2" hex bolt takes a 11/16" wrench.
...... 8/16" + 3/16" = 11/16

follow?
Mike, the instructions say to use a 3/16" hex wrench. Are you suggesting that the instructions are wrong?
 
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Old Apr 10, 2014 | 05:24 PM
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[QUOTE="mkguitar;12569704"]the bolt is 5/16" NC x 1/2" we are sizing the bolt, not the tool to drive the bolt. /QUOTE]
How is this so hard to understand?

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- with allen keys the size of the drive tool is not always standardized to the size of the bolt

you need a 5/16" NC x 1/2" bolt, button head allen if you want same as stock.

this bolt may require a 3/16" allen key, or it may be another size.


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Originally Posted by mkguitar
you need a 5/16" NC x 1/2" bolt, button head allen if you want same as stock.

this bolt may require a 3/16" allen key, or it may be another size.
Ahhh. Okay. now I get it.

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