Which header and tuner do I need?
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Which header and tuner do I need?
I have a 2011 Ultra with SE Street Cannons, and I just purchased the SE Stage 1 air cleaner. I am looking to change out the headers to reduce heat and free up the exhaust flow. I want to keep the dual exhaust, and I was looking at the V&H power duals or true duals. What is everyone's take on either of them? I realize if I change the exhaust myself, I will need exhaust gaskets but is there anything else that I would need. Does the V&H come will all the brackets, etc that I need to install them?
I am also looking for a decent tuner, and I know that I will need to do this to stop the lean condition. I don't want the download, because if I change anything later, with a tuner it should be an easy swap. What is everyone's take on the Fuel Moto Power Commander? Can this easily be installed? Also, do I keep it on the bike, or just change the ECM and unplug?
I am very mechanically inclined as I did all the work on my previous bike with jetting the carbs, and all the maintenance. I am new to HD and I love my new ride. Any advice would be appreciated.
I am also looking for a decent tuner, and I know that I will need to do this to stop the lean condition. I don't want the download, because if I change anything later, with a tuner it should be an easy swap. What is everyone's take on the Fuel Moto Power Commander? Can this easily be installed? Also, do I keep it on the bike, or just change the ECM and unplug?
I am very mechanically inclined as I did all the work on my previous bike with jetting the carbs, and all the maintenance. I am new to HD and I love my new ride. Any advice would be appreciated.
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You don't "need" anything.
The Power Vision will give you the ability to make changes to the ECM as you make changes to the bike. I think it's the most versatile tuner out there.
Jackpot's head pipe is also a good option should you choose to replace that as well.
The Power Vision will give you the ability to make changes to the ECM as you make changes to the bike. I think it's the most versatile tuner out there.
Jackpot's head pipe is also a good option should you choose to replace that as well.
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with true duals you will most likely lose torque (compared to 2:1:2).
Most popular non cat X pipes seem to be the VH power dual, Fuelmoto Jackpot, (can have it ceramic coated) or Fullsac (ceramic). I use the Fullsac and it works fine, but I think either of the other two would give similar results. I see more and more of the VH power duals out there. Just depends on price and looks.
Most popular non cat X pipes seem to be the VH power dual, Fuelmoto Jackpot, (can have it ceramic coated) or Fullsac (ceramic). I use the Fullsac and it works fine, but I think either of the other two would give similar results. I see more and more of the VH power duals out there. Just depends on price and looks.
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Ok as far as the Power Commander, I am looking at purchasing the PV5 (15-011) for $299. Do I need to get the autotuner option as well? Sorry for all the quesitons, but I haven't done this before and want to make sure that I get everything I need. I just want my bike to run effeciently, it already has plenty of power.
As stated before, I am changing out the headers for heat reason not performance.
As stated before, I am changing out the headers for heat reason not performance.
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Don't know if you would need auto tune or not but I would get the power vision, it has basic auto tune.
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+1 on the Power Vision, it flashes the ECM, where the PC-5 is a piggy back module, a little shout out to Fuelmoto these guys are great, Give Jamie or Keith a shout and pick their brains a little, they not only have Jackpot 2-1-2, but I believe you can get VH duals from them also. it would be worth a 5 minute call.
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I just did this a month ago. Power Duals come with everything you'll need. Even exhaust gaskets and instructions that make sense. With the understanding that I haven't used anything else, I really like the Power Vision. Got it from Fuel Moto. Tuning was really simple. In addition to tuning the bike, I used the PV to calibrate my speedo. It's right on with the GPS now. It's a very simple system. Expensive, but simple.
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