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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 05:13 PM
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She has to lean into the turns or your gona have trouble with the bike. You just have to get use to the weight change to the bike once you do that you should be fine.
Hey Guy, don't take this the wrong way, it could save your life. If you think she needs to lean then you probably think you have to lean into a turn, which points out a very obvious skill lacking in your riding ability. Which is countersteering. It is the only way to turn a bike unless your in a parking lot. I call it driving the bike versus riding on it. It is something everyone does to some to some degree naturally, but until you learn it and make it second nature it will not be there when you truly need more lean angle in aturn and rather than pull more lean angle with the bars you'll be standing it up and braking it right off the side of the road.I've never done an MSF, but I would think they cover it. You want her to ride then please learn this, even a low speed get off will ruin her desire to be on one. When you learn to steer the bike you want the passenger to be completely neutral on the bike. They goe where it goes, not trying to help it lean or help it unlean. She stays vertically parellel with the bike where it is.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 09:08 PM
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Good advice here, it's better she stays put and upright than to lean too much or the wrong way. You'll get used to it.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 09:22 PM
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My wife rides her own V-Rod, so she's not often on the back, but when she is, I always ask her to let me know when she's going to be moving around. One time at a stoplight, a female friend of mine was on the back, and when she reached down to adjust something on her shoe she nearly took us both down.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 01:35 AM
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YOu don't need anymore advice; but:
make sure she is comfortable
She leans the same way you do
My wife likes the full face helmet, minimizes wind in the eyes -- don't want to mess up the makeup
make sure you know when she's getting on and off.
Always lean left when stopping -- well, 99.9% of the time

We do a lot of trips, don't push for too many miles per day.
Join the local Goldwing Road Riders Assocation (GWRRA)- they have free Motorcycle Safety Foundation courses (versus couple hundred bucks!!) and it includes 2 up training.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 02:10 AM
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I bought an Ultra last summer. I wouldn't let my wife on it until I spent some serious time with water softner salt strapped to the back seat so I could get the feel for the added weight.I put 3 bags on. The neighbors thought I had a delivery service. I then took her around a parking lot until she got the feel of turning. She says it is a lot like dancing only this time she lets me lead.

Give her a serious talk about not slipping off of the foot pegs when she wants to shift weight. Wehaven't had the problem but I watched another bike go down because the passenger slipped off of the peg. She needs to be especially sure she is not moving around just before or at a stop.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 02:31 AM
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kingtut73
i plan to ride the bike for a good month to get the feel.only until im ready ill ask her to ride with me.
to all you HD two up pros, im looking for any words of wisdom
btw heres my last bike and you'll see what i mean

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Compared to what ya been ridin...and I was ridin somthin similar...ya gotta realize with Mama on the back with ya on top o that 800#'r... ya got a big payload to stop! Keep yer distance and keep yer eye's open and yer brain in the "on" position!
 
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 10:26 AM
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By all means take the safety course and get some one up practice on bike to see how it feels and handles.
Also go buy a 70 pound bag of sand.
Wrap it in a towel or blanket to protect seat.
Lay it down flat on seat and practice turns leaning etc at slow speed
like in a parking lot. Tie it down of course.
Then do the same with the bag standing up.
I say this as even though the bag is lighter than her it is compact and heavy enough to change handling characteristics of bike, but it WON"T move around.
Be sure to readjust the rear shock pressure.
As far as her leaning into the turn.
I would say no to that, at least at first, untl you and her are both used to the bike.
You need to have a good feel of it with her on, you should control
how the bike should handle.
After you and her have a good feel, then try with her leaning.
My girl friends have always just stayed planted back in the back rest.
Let me control the bike. After all it's a touring bike not a racer.
Normally yourturns won't be that sharp or time sensitive or at high speeds.
If she happens to lean too far and throws bike off balance you will have to counter it.
So in the end practice, practice, practice
 
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 01:20 PM
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All very sound advice.

In the last 21 months a put over 20K on my Ultra. I would say 70 - 80% has been 2 up.

I NEVER give my wife a hard time or guilt her into riding. If she doesn't "feel" like riding, fine, she doesn't ride.

I'm more of the "stay put in the seat" school than lean. I actually can rag on myself here. One of her first rides with me I said, Stay put, don't be moving around. If something happens give me the chance to ride out oftrouble. I was almost joking when I said, "If we go down I want you still on the bike".

Not two weeks after that we are pulling into a bike only place with grass/dirt parking. As I'm turning to park the front-end washed out in what turned out to bewet soilbelow the grass. We were only going about 5 mph and stopped really quick. I looked back at her and said, you can get off now. She later told me she never knewanything happened until she realized she could touch the ground with her left foot before dismount.

She has ridden enough now to know that she too needs to be alert when we come to an intersection or stopping.

Most of all ENJOY the time with your wife!
 
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 01:46 PM
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Lets see, I am 6"4 and weigh 250 lbs. My wife is 5' ) and weight 100 lbs. Never know she is back there. The one thing I tell her is to hang on and always be in a position to be able to look over the shoulder that inside the turn.
 
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