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Old Apr 21, 2014 | 04:02 PM
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Default Any guesses on numbers before dyno run?

Saturday a local indy is having an open house and doing 3 dyno pulls for $20. How can you not spend $20 on that, right? Here is what I have:

2009 Street Glide - 16,000 miles on odometer and 7,000 on build
103ci from stock 96ci
Woods cams (don't know model)
port & polished heads
big sucker intake
D&D Fat Cat 2 into 1 with normal baffle (not quiet)
Power Commander V
elevation is approx 900ft

The PO had the motor built a few years back but couldn't find his paperwork on which Woods cam he had put in it. I contacted the builder but he didn't want to dig through his boxes of paperwork to find out which one it was, which was nice. He did remember getting the map from another builder with an almost identical build but I don't know if I believe him since he would hardly give me the time of day. The runs great and pulls like a freight train from 3,500 to 5,500 rpm but I want to see what the numbers are before I decide if I want to spend $200 to get it fully dynoed with custom map. I've downloaded the canned maps but haven't run any of those as of yet. Thoughts on what numbers I SHOULD expect it to put down?
 
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Old Apr 21, 2014 | 04:04 PM
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115 tq?
 
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Hmm lets see,
cam unknown
compression unknown
cranking pressure unknown
canned map unknown
headporter and headwork not revealed

I'm all in for 99hp
 
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Old Apr 21, 2014 | 04:17 PM
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92 HP.

what do i win



BTW I've seen dyno runs offered "just for fun", but also as a "hard sell" where the operator is telling the owner how his bike needs immediate services or it'll blow up.






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Old Apr 21, 2014 | 04:40 PM
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92 HP.

what do i win

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Old Apr 21, 2014 | 04:46 PM
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100+ HP easily.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2014 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by qtrracer
Hmm lets see,
cam unknown
compression unknown
cranking pressure unknown
canned map unknown
headporter and headwork not revealed

I'm all in for 99hp
I hear ya, I'm giving you everything I know. I just dropped in the 15-011-239 canned tune and going to go for a ride. I don't know which would be closest to my D&D Fat Cats (Thunderheader, BUB7 or Reinharts) and it also only gives me the TW6:6 as an option (that has a tune). We'll see if there is any seat of the pants difference that I can notice.


15-011-239
2008-2009 Harley Davidson Touring model, Thunderheader 2into1 exhaust, Screamin Eagle 103" pistons, Woods TW 6:6 cams, Screamin Eagle air filter, Stock ECM 103, 2into1, WoodsTW6:6

15-011-240
2008-2009 Harley Davidson Touring model, Bub 7 2into1 exhaust, Screamin Eagle 103" pistons, Woods TW 6:6 cams, Screamin Eagle air filter, Stock ECM 103, 2into1, WoodsTW6:6

15-011-242
2008-2009 Harley Davidson Touring model, Rinehart 2into1 exhaust, Screamin Eagle 103" pistons, Woods TW6:6 cams, Screamin Eagle air filter, Stock ECM 103, 2into1, WoodsTW6:6
 
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Old Apr 21, 2014 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Bagger_Vance
I hear ya, I'm giving you everything I know. I just dropped in the 15-011-239 canned tune and going to go for a ride. I don't know which would be closest to my D&D Fat Cats (Thunderheader, BUB7 or Reinharts) and it also only gives me the TW6:6 as an option (that has a tune). We'll see if there is any seat of the pants difference that I can notice.


15-011-239
2008-2009 Harley Davidson Touring model, Thunderheader 2into1 exhaust, Screamin Eagle 103" pistons, Woods TW 6:6 cams, Screamin Eagle air filter, Stock ECM 103, 2into1, WoodsTW6:6

15-011-240
2008-2009 Harley Davidson Touring model, Bub 7 2into1 exhaust, Screamin Eagle 103" pistons, Woods TW 6:6 cams, Screamin Eagle air filter, Stock ECM 103, 2into1, WoodsTW6:6

15-011-242
2008-2009 Harley Davidson Touring model, Rinehart 2into1 exhaust, Screamin Eagle 103" pistons, Woods TW6:6 cams, Screamin Eagle air filter, Stock ECM 103, 2into1, WoodsTW6:6
canned tunes are deceiving...my bike never ran as it should until I had it dynotuned after cam install..the canned base maps were junk for me..
 
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You don't know what cams or pistons are in the bike so worrying about which canned map matches your exhaust is kinda pointless.
 
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Originally Posted by qtrracer
You don't know what cams or pistons are in the bike so worrying about which canned map matches your exhaust is kinda pointless.
I agree but it's probably not totally pointless as I'm trying to get at least one thing as a constant and work from there. The canned map did have more pull to it in 2-4 gear and actually revealed a slight slip in my clutching at WFO shifting from 3rd-4th at around 5K. About 3 weeks ago I put Amsoil 20-50 in my primary, 20-50 in my motor and severe gear in the tranny. I adjusted my clutch as well but didn't feel any slipping until I just switched the maps today. The Amsoil is a whooooole other discussion that I don't want anyone to get into but I'm going to change it out for some Formula 1 to see if that changes anything. For ***** and giggles I'm going to take some screen shots and compare the numbers between the custom map that was loaded when I bought the bike and the other canned maps. I'm also going to call the builder again and plead with him to pull his records.
 
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