Ape install nightmare, help needed!
Intermediate
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
From: maryland
do not solder any wires in the tbw. there is two wires in there that work together to create a 5 volt signal between both of them. you will change the resistance of these two wires with solder and things will go wrong. also as Nbdzhro has said right side switch control could be damaged. i had this happen also and just a note for what it cost to replace just one switch control you can buy the lighted upgrade set for about $50.00 more. another note if you go with the screaming eagle tbw the terminals ends are backwards from 2014 sgs. you would need six terminal sockets to crimp on the wires after you cut off the se ones. part no# (72168-07) if you do not have a manual you may need one for wiring diagram. also the se tbw wire colors do not match to your factory wires so you need to figure that out. can-bus system is very sensitive.
Road Warrior
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,993
Likes: 20
From: Southeast GA
do not solder any wires in the tbw. there is two wires in there that work together to create a 5 volt signal between both of them. you will change the resistance of these two wires with solder and things will go wrong. also as Nbdzhro has said right side switch control could be damaged. i had this happen also and just a note for what it cost to replace just one switch control you can buy the lighted upgrade set for about $50.00 more. another note if you go with the screaming eagle tbw the terminals ends are backwards from 2014 sgs. you would need six terminal sockets to crimp on the wires after you cut off the se ones. part no# (72168-07) if you do not have a manual you may need one for wiring diagram. also the se tbw wire colors do not match to your factory wires so you need to figure that out. can-bus system is very sensitive.
Road Captain
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 544
Likes: 2
From: Houston, TX
do not solder any wires in the tbw. there is two wires in there that work together to create a 5 volt signal between both of them. you will change the resistance of these two wires with solder and things will go wrong. also as Nbdzhro has said right side switch control could be damaged. i had this happen also and just a note for what it cost to replace just one switch control you can buy the lighted upgrade set for about $50.00 more. another note if you go with the screaming eagle tbw the terminals ends are backwards from 2014 sgs. you would need six terminal sockets to crimp on the wires after you cut off the se ones. part no# (72168-07) if you do not have a manual you may need one for wiring diagram. also the se tbw wire colors do not match to your factory wires so you need to figure that out. can-bus system is very sensitive.
Soldered mine together and 4yrs later its still running great with no problems.
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Road Captain
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 599
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From: Little Rock, Arkansas
Found the problem. I took the dreaded TBW off of my SG, put it on my friends SGS, bingo, problem solved. I must have damaged the original one installing it through the bars. So, tomorrow, I will go and get another one for mine. This was the first 14 that I have done and it taught me a few lessons. One, the TBW is VERY DELICATE. Two, I am almost sure that when I do my 12's, the clutch and brake hoses will not be long enough unless I can figure out how to route them differently than one with the 10's. This is how we learn.
Intermediate
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
From: maryland
Found the problem. I took the dreaded TBW off of my SG, put it on my friends SGS, bingo, problem solved. I must have damaged the original one installing it through the bars. So, tomorrow, I will go and get another one for mine. This was the first 14 that I have done and it taught me a few lessons. One, the TBW is VERY DELICATE. Two, I am almost sure that when I do my 12's, the clutch and brake hoses will not be long enough unless I can figure out how to route them differently than one with the 10's. This is how we learn.