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Old Jul 23, 2014 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by bigheadted
The most retarded post I have seen in a while. Really ??

how many ppl ahve spent money on cams and not saw an increase? ppl crack me up
 
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Old Jul 23, 2014 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by kojak
Sorry, I forgot some of you think just bolting on cams makes a difference. I've had 88's bored out, changed to higher compression pistons, opened up intakes, changed exhaust systems etc and changed cams to complete the engine build. Just changing cams on a 88 and leaving the rest of the engine stock makes little sense to me. But to each his own.
I can't believe anyone would think that it wouldn't make at least some difference. Of course more mods will make more difference, that's obvious, but a set of cams that don't need to meet emissions and a good tune will make a nice gain over stock.

Based on the research I did before I did my build I'd go with a SE204 or an Andrews 26. The Andrews 21 gets good results but the 204 and the 26 seem to carry the torque out a bit farther. All three cams get good reviews on stage 1 88's. Good luck with your build.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2014 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by 06Cummins
Looks like from all your advice and some research I'm going with the Andrews 21. Thanks guys. Y'all ride safe and god bless
Cummins,

I recently installed the Andrews 21 in my 88B. I'm pretty happy with them. During my research, I saw that the 21 was more popular for the Softail riders while the 26 seemed more popular with the Touring crowd. The 26 allows you to go to a 95" later on without having to re-cam, but let's be honest, the cams are the cheap part in a 95" build.

I didn't see it mentioned in your thread...are you going to use the SE hydraulic conversion kit with the fancy billet plate, or are you upgrading to standard 07+ parts (06+ Dyna)?

Reason I ask is...The SE plate kit retains the use of a Morse Link chain for the secondary cam chain. This is the tensioner that's harder to replace, and also seems to wear faster. The Morse Link chains are the real culprit in this set up.

By swapping to the 07+ style parts, you upgrade both primary and secondary cam chains to roller style chains. Once they wear their grooves into the tensioners, they don't keep chewing through it.

If you choose to go the second route (which I'd recommend), you'll want to use Andrews Conversion cams. So, in this case, the 21N or the 26N.

The difference is that the inner cam bearing race is .875" diameter. On the old junk that is stock from 00-06, the outer cam race in the support plate is the same size.

The 07+ support plate is 1" diameter. Conversion cams are ground to have a .875" inner and 1" outer.

If you use the SE Hydraulic upgrade kit, skip conversion cams, and just run with the Andrews 21.

Hope I made sense!
 
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Old Jul 23, 2014 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 06Cummins
Going to be doing cam tensioners and wanted to change cams while I was in there.

I have a 2004 twin cam 88 and want to know what is the biggest cam I can run without having to any head work. I'm going to adjustable pushrods and aftermarket covers. New hydraulic tensioners and cam bearings.
I was really happy with S&S510 cams in my '02 RKC. They worked well with my TC88. When I bumped it up to a 95, they did a good job as well. They sounded great and ran great for a touring bike.

FYI - I did the S&S510"G" cams. G is for gear drive. I punted the cam tensioner set up in favor of the gears. If I had another TC88, I'd do gears again.

Good luck.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2014 | 09:26 AM
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I'm with Bigheadted, sorry Kojak. Dropping my Andrews 21's into my otherwise stock motor was the best bang for the buck I have spent on this bike. Very significant power increase. Sorry Kojak, I'm not a engine work elitest. But you are wrong on this one.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2014 | 01:47 PM
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I have seen hundreds of cam changes and every one of them when tuned right were an large improvement over the stock cams. I am referring to the bolt in cams. !0 to 15 hp may not sound like much, but when you improve hp 15 to 20% I can assure you you will feel it.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2014 | 01:55 PM
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I have the S&S 509G cams in my 88. Definitely an improvement over stock.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2014 | 02:00 PM
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I had SE204 cams in my bike, when my second set of tensioners wore out I went gear drive cams and put Andrews 37G cams in, love them, no more tensioners to ever worry about again.
 
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