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Old Jan 11, 2016 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by msocko3
Depending on the tuner your dealer recommended, it could also void the warranty. The only tuner Harley sells which won't void the warranty, is the Screamin Eagle street performance tuner. FWIW, you have a bike with a pretty good air intake system right from the factory, on 14 and later it's more looks than increased power with Stage 1 air systems. Now if you're going to change cams or perform other engine modifications, you could get an advantage swapping to a better flowing air filter.
The dealer I bought my 14sgs new off the showroom floor with stage 3 kit and the Screaming Eagle pro race tuner they told me it is fully covered under the factory warranty. It may be a different story if i go to another dealer to have work done under warranty which it could happened if i have a problem while traveling and have to stop at anothe dealer. Guess i'll cross that bridge when i get to it. lol..
 
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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by willryder
The dealer I bought my 14sgs new off the showroom floor with stage 3 kit and the Screaming Eagle pro race tuner they told me it is fully covered under the factory warranty. It may be a different story if i go to another dealer to have work done under warranty which it could happened if i have a problem while traveling and have to stop at anothe dealer. Guess i'll cross that bridge when i get to it. lol..
You are correct, if could be a problem with a different dealer. It could also be a problem at your dealer if they would have to get someone in from the mother ship to authorize a warranty repair. I know HD can be real dicks when we make changes to our toys, they don't like. My dad had his power train warranty flagged when the service manager told HD we installed SE255 cams and the SE race tuner.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2016 | 04:22 PM
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Anyone out there having an issue with the pleaded filter chrome oval end cap flying off? I bought this model and had it installed by my HD dealer and the chrome end cap flew off in the highway. Took it back and HD had to replace the entire filter because they said the cap is affixed to the filter from factory. After the new filter head was installed, the freakin chrome cap flew off again. Am i the only person this is happening to? There is no visible adhesive even to the touch on the end of the filter. Simply smooth plastic. What are these caps held on with? My dealer is puzzled.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2016 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by willryder
I'm running this one also, like the way it isn't as long. Works great it you have lowers installed.

The Elite absolutely will not fit with lowers. I tried and it is inches too long. Only the short heavy breather (non Elite) fits and just barely.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2016 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by hemi1300
anyone running this breather? Looking at purchasing one for 14 street glide, like the idea that it hugs the engine for a low profile look and increased leg room
http://www.harley-davidson.com/store...18-29400173--1

running jackpot slip ons and just installed power vision, hopefully the breather will add a little hp
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Not using that model, I have the SE Ventilator. If your running a header than yes it will certainly make a big difference.

not so. the ac on the rushmore bikes is more free-flowing than on previous bikes. you might pick up a pony or two, but no where near the amount that you would have earlier. your biggest change is going to be with the look.

oh, crap. old thread......
 

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Old Aug 7, 2016 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by skratch
not so. the ac on the rushmore bikes is more free-flowing than on previous bikes. you might pick up a pony or two, but no where near the amount that you would have earlier. your biggest change is going to be with the look.

oh, crap. old thread......
FM's dyno shows gains throughout power band of more then a pony or two when comparing stock Rushmore a/c to FM filter kit. Another person dyno'd a 103" with 57's comparing a stock Rushmore a/c with KN filter that flows more then oem filter, to a Kury Crusher III. The Kury also had gains throughout the entire power band. And the Kury III had "zero power loss" on dyno with backing plate only, no filter. The right hi flo a/c with decent slip ons and a tune will provide some sop fun. And just as important, better throttle response throughout the power band.

I just purchased a Kury Crusher Street Sleeper III for many reasons. The increased filter size will take longer to get dirty and reduce filtration. The built in internal breathers seems like a clean setup, no hoses. And the smaller diameter back plate allows more air flow. It will probably allow more noises to be heard then stock cover, and possibly intake some hotter air when bike is not moving. But, the primary reason I bought it is, they wont ship or sale it in California so you know its gotta be good!!

http://www.kuryakyn.com/products/495...ii-air-cleaner
 
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Old Aug 8, 2016 | 04:27 PM
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not sure what you are trying to show with the first dyno chart. it is showing a difference of less than 2 hp. I would guess that would be in the realm of 'pony or two'.....

the point I was trying to make is that the stage 1 on the rushmore bikes does not yield the same increase in hp/tq that it used to. it is not the same bang for the buck.

I looked at another fm dyno chart. completely stock, 77hp/92tq. with fm stage 1 ac, 83hp/95tq. so an increase in 6 hp/3 tq. a little outside my prior range, but not that huge of an increase. and since tq is what you feel most with the seat of the pants dyno, an increase in 3 ft/lb, is going to be hardly noticeable.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2016 | 08:54 PM
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I really really want the SE Heavy Breather air cleaner for my 2016 Road Glide Ultra so I have got myself convinced that I will get a huge improvement in power and torque.

I also buy a lotto ticket every week.

The thing with the Fuel Moto dyno charts is that although they show the results of a 103HO stock dyno run so far as I can see they don't show a 103HO stock and tuned dyno run so there is no way to separate how much of the gains are coming from the Fuel Moto air cleaner or the tune.

I really appreciate that Fuel Moto posted the results of all those runs.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2016 | 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by skratch
not sure what you are trying to show with the first dyno chart. it is showing a difference of less than 2 hp. I would guess that would be in the realm of 'pony or two'.....

the point I was trying to make is that the stage 1 on the rushmore bikes does not yield the same increase in hp/tq that it used to. it is not the same bang for the buck.

I looked at another fm dyno chart. completely stock, 77hp/92tq. with fm stage 1 ac, 83hp/95tq. so an increase in 6 hp/3 tq. a little outside my prior range, but not that huge of an increase. and since tq is what you feel most with the seat of the pants dyno, an increase in 3 ft/lb, is going to be hardly noticeable.
Not to mention most of the dyno charts folks show are wide open throttle, how many run around with their throttle pinned. IMO, a couple hp and a few ft/lbs torque is insignificant, sure are not going to feel it. A good tune will do more good on a stock Rushmore.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2016 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by skratch
not sure what you are trying to show with the first dyno chart. it is showing a difference of less than 2 hp. I would guess that would be in the realm of 'pony or two'.....

the point I was trying to make is that the stage 1 on the rushmore bikes does not yield the same increase in hp/tq that it used to. it is not the same bang for the buck.

I looked at another fm dyno chart. completely stock, 77hp/92tq. with fm stage 1 ac, 83hp/95tq. so an increase in 6 hp/3 tq. a little outside my prior range, but not that huge of an increase. and since tq is what you feel most with the seat of the pants dyno, an increase in 3 ft/lb, is going to be hardly noticeable.
Read FM's ENTIRE dyno this time. Like I said, gains throughout the "entire" power band. Much more then one or two ponies and the "much more" where most of the riding occurs.

And, read and comprehend what I wrote. The 6hp/3tq increase is compared to the "KN filter" which flows more then the stock Rushmore. So those 6/3 gains would be even greater when compared to stock Rushmore filter.

And like I said, a/c alone, not a big deal. A/C, pipes and tune will be a different bike.
 
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