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Old Oct 22, 2024 | 07:29 AM
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What was the first year Harley put in the stronger reverse motor?
We have a 21 and we can tell the reverse motor has more power then her 16 did.
 
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Yes I know the part number is the same. Harley did this under the radar ,no publicity over it. That's why this mechanic only new the year. He thinks it's 20 and up..I was hoping someone on here had some inside info.
My bud has always seemed to know what he's talking about. I hate to bother DK Customs over this, but they would probably know. If the election in November goes the way I hope it will, I will be more inclined to spend more money on a Freewheeler with ,DK, Custom to get everything I want to make it mine . If the Nov election goes the other way, I will most likely buy nothing. This is why I haven't bothered DK Customs over this, I respect them.. I hope this did not get too political, I did not say a single word of the person I think that can fix the economy... Just using common sense. I appreciate all the advice.😊
The attached Service Bulletin explains what you are looking for; along with the wiring kit.

"To inform dealers of a running change for the new reverse
motor (Part No. 83388-09C) for Trike models. As of January
28, 2020 all Trike platform vehicles will be manufactured using
the new reverse motor. The new reverse motor will be used to
replace reverse motor assemblies (Part No. 83388-09,
83388-09A,83388-09B) that have failed diagnostics. Refer to
Table 2.
This motor contains several improvements for better motor
durability."
 
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Both the `16 and 21 use the same motor
p/n 83388-09C
the -09 tells us the part started in `09
the C MIGHT indicate a revision in design / power
 
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Both the `16 and 21 use the same motor
p/n 83388-09C
the -09 tells us the part started in `09
the C MIGHT indicate a revision in design / power
I know they increased the power output on the reverse motor, I know the 21 has it. A friend said 20 was the first year, but he was going by a salesman. When backing up hill the extra power is obvious.
I'm looking to buy a used one and want to be sure to get the revised one.

 
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May be stronger but more reliable I question. My 2024 TG just turned 10k when reverse motor took a dump last week. Luck of the draw I guess as my 2018 and 2020 TGs went over 30k each without failure. Go figure
 
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Adding a aftermarket mechanical reverse gears(ex. Motor Trike;https://www.motortrike.com/trikereverse.aspx) would solve this problem.
 
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May be stronger but more reliable I question. My 2024 TG just turned 10k when reverse motor took a dump last week. Luck of the draw I guess as my 2018 and 2020 TGs went over 30k each without failure. Go figure
Sad about the 24, but I think the 20 had the revised one. We never had trouble with the 16 but you could tell it was under a strain by the feeling and sound. Her 21 reverse has more power and does not make that whining straining sound going uphill.
 
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Just called my bud about what he was told by the service guy at his local dealership. He trust this guy.
the 114 was stock in 19.
In 20 they uesd the existing reverse motor adding more wattage and power to it..
I can't find anything else on it, the guy was right about the 114 on all stating in 19.
I just want to be sure if I get one it has the stronger wattage motor.
 
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I thought that this reverse gear, clutch operated, engine driven, stick shift was the coolest.

Saw this guy pull in, shift into reverse and back up like a boss. Nice setup



 
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I thought that this reverse gear, clutch operated, engine driven, stick shift was the coolest.

Saw this guy pull in, shift into reverse and back up like a boss. Nice setup


Yes I know all about them, I like the Baker one. But to many other things I need to buy to make it mine. I just want to know what year did they add more wattage to the reverse electric motor ,that's it. My wife uses her reverse continuously, way more than she needs to,and no problems 20,000 miles. But I know the 21 has the upgrade reverse. I'm simply trying to find out what year the upgrade was done . Harley never advertised it,,, didn't want people to know because lots of people would want theres updated for free if it was still under warranty. Human Nature, but thank you for the picture and advice.

 
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The part number for the 15 and on up including 23 is 83388-c. I don't see where there has been any change to them.
The part number would have changed.

If they added anything i would think the parts book would reflect it.
 

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