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Hi,
I have a 2015 Breakout FXSB 103 . I bought it used in 2016 with 2600 miles on it (it now has 14,000 miles on it)
I bought it with these parts already installed on the bike when I bought it ;
the screaming eagle k&n snorkel type cone air filter intake , and Vance & Hines street sweeper pipes.
The original owner, gave me the screaming eagle super tuner pro programmer with it.
I have a tiny oil leak coming from the back cylinder under the valve cover, so I was going to replace the valve cover / and rocker cover gaskets this winter and was thinking, of doing cams While it’s Half way there.
I don’t race the bike, or redline it, I usually shift between 2500-3500 rpm and my wife I take long rides on the weekends, mostly back roads, but we do highway as well (100-175 miles round trip each time). With that being said, what cams do you guys recommend I get something with more Low end power, would be what I would think?
What are your thoughts on the SE 204 cams?
my next question is, I read to obviously do cam bearings as well. What else do you recommend I replace while in there? I run full synthetic and don’t let it go over 3,000 miles on a oil change (yes I know that’s a waste, but I do it anyway.)
I plan on keeping this bike a very long time and hope to see well over 100k on the odometer one day.
I also do all my Own work, it my first Harley and have never opened up this engine or another Harley engine, but I have a manual and want to do all the work myself. which leaves me to my next question... how does the tuner work? Hook it to a lap top? Do I need to have a shop tune it, or can I down load a tune and install it myself? If it does need a tune from a shop, is it safe to ride it to the shop with out the new tune?
I sorry for all the questions, just looking for some help, guidance and advice. I appreciate all your answers and help.
Thank You
Last edited by Camaro2ssls3; Sep 13, 2021 at 09:21 PM.
What's your budget? Knowing what you have to spend will dictate what you can do to the motor and then what cam will work with other parts you have or will get. First thing you should do is check your crank runout...lots of guys say don't build on more than. 003 runout. You'll get some different opinions on that. Plan on new lifters and inner cam bearings. As long as your oil pump and cam plate are within spec they're fine for a built motor. You're gonna get the "throw those pipes in the garbage " crew soon lol. Some pipes are really junk while others may not get you every last h.p. they might be good enough and let you spend 1000 bucks on something else...like some nice hillside headwork. Check that runout...check that bank account and get back to us
What's your budget? Knowing what you have to spend will dictate what you can do to the motor and then what cam will work with other parts you have or will get. First thing you should do is check your crank runout...lots of guys say don't build on more than. 003 runout. You'll get some different opinions on that. Plan on new lifters and inner cam bearings. As long as your oil pump and cam plate are within spec they're fine for a built motor. You're gonna get the "throw those pipes in the garbage " crew soon lol. Some pipes are really junk while others may not get you every last h.p. they might be good enough and let you spend 1000 bucks on something else...like some nice hillside headwork. Check that runout...check that bank account and get back to us
thanks for the reply.
I’m just looking to do a cam swap while I have the rocker box off to fix a oil leak,
I don’t want to spend more than I have to (meaning I just want to do a cam swap, but do it while replacing parts that should be replaced along with doing a standard cam swap) and don’t want to spend money on the heads or valves.
I honestly don’t care what people think of the pipes, they came with the bike and I’m not replacing them. I’m just looking to do a standard cam swap, to maybe help with 6 gear and have somewhat of a nice sounding idle. I’m not trying to get the best bang for the buck, and add a ton of power. I’d like to be under $500 or around in parts if possible (since I’ll have to buy some special tools to do the job )
Do I really need to check crank runout with only 14k miles?
Check Fuel Moto's web site, They did a cam comparison that should get you all the info you need. I chose the Andrews 48. Always a good idea to check crank runout.
Better low end=TTS100. Better mid range = Andrews 48
Good advice. The tuner does allow access to "maps", other ECU configurations; however, finding one that matches cam, intake and exhaust might be difficult. A dyno tune is worth the cost to optimize the performance of the upgrade.
Better low end=TTS100. Better mid range = Andrews 48
Originally Posted by djl
Good advice. The tuner does allow access to "maps", other ECU configurations; however, finding one that matches cam, intake and exhaust might be difficult. A dyno tune is worth the cost to optimize the performance of the upgrade.
I completely agree with both of the posts above. I've done 2 cam swaps this year with my TC103 bikes. I've found that a dyno tune by a reputable tuner lends to a better running machine vs. any custom map will, or even a custom map that's been autotuned on.
I put the Andrews 48h cams in my Softail and it hit the mark for what I was looking for. Power comes on sooner vs. the stock cams and it shines primarily in the mid-range. Works well in a 2-up setup. It's a great set to consider for broad power. If you want more low-end focus the TTS100 as mentioned would be a consideration. S&S 583, SE255 are some others that come to mind. I think something with an IVC of <30 would likely be most appropriate for what you're looking for. The SE204s are a nice set, but I don't think they will deliver what you're after.
I see you are in Oaks. I'm right over in Skippack. If you want to meet up sometime and ride my Softail with the 48h cams and same V&H exhaust that you have, you are welcome to. I can also provide some dyno tuner recommendations if you'd like. The reputable tuners around here suggest the TTS unit or Powervision FWIW.
It just dawned on me that being a '15, you've got the 103 HO. Slightly hotter stock cam profile vs. the non HO bikes. I think duration wise it's close to the SE255 grind but with a later IVC.
Check Fuel Moto's web site, They did a cam comparison that should get you all the info you need. I chose the Andrews 48. Always a good idea to check crank runout.
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‘15 Breakout 103, looking for Cam swap advice
