2016 Street Glide Special Burning Oil

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Oct 15, 2016 | 02:37 PM

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fltrxcrzy

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From: Hendertucky, NV

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Originally Posted by IUOE ROB

Really? Wow...I figured with today's newer technology and tighter clearances you'd go at lease 3K before even thinking about adding oil. I remember back in the day 1 quart per thousand miles was pretty much standard for our old Chevy's and Ford's but I didn't think that applied anymore. Gotta say I'd be really ticked if I had to worry about oil every 900 miles...

Yeah.. I believe that's the 1969 standard. Today's EPA regulations have tighted... Here's consumer reports take on this topic.

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/magazine/2015/06/excessive-oil-consumption/index.htm

Oct 15, 2016 | 03:49 PM

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Uncle Larry

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Originally Posted by fltrxcrzy

Yeah.. I believe that's the 1969 standard. Today's EPA regulations have tighted... Here's consumer reports take on this topic.

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/m...tion/index.htm

Although it may be a 'bit" more ... the figures are quite close to what I posted even according to your link. . Also ( FWIW ) I have a 2011 Equinox ( there have been oil consumption problems with some of the early run ) that falls within the parameters I listed according to General Motors. In their defense they did extend the warranty for the engine only from 70,000 to 100,000 ... Whoppeeee :>)

Quoted from your reference ... Audi, BMW, and Subaru stick firmly to the statement that oil consumption is a normal part of a car’s operation. Subaru considers a quart burned every 1,000 to 1,200 miles to be acceptable. Certain Audi and BMW cars’ standards state that a quart burned every 600 to 700 miles is reasonable.

Oct 15, 2016 | 03:50 PM

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Uncle Larry

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Originally Posted by IUOE ROB

Oh I agree. I'm not saying it's correct, only that that's where they stand, for the most part, on the subject

Oct 15, 2016 | 07:16 PM

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kanelakos

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Originally Posted by commander112

Your dealer sucks! You probably have a valve guide seal problem. My bike is in for the exact same problem. Before they can pull the motor they are doing a leak down test just to confirm it is not a ring problem (it has good compression on both cylinders) once that is confirmed out comes the motor and they will tear it down to confirm it is the VGS. Take a look at your plugs. I'm sure one or possibly both are oil fouled. Hope you have a warranty.

He bought a 2016 in april.... yes, i think it is still under warranty.

Oct 18, 2016 | 06:48 AM

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dksob81

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Yes it is under warranty, but it seems like they don't want to fix it. I am an ASE Certified Master Automotive Technician, so i know all about the Oil Consumption Guidelines from every manufacture. Most vehicles do not have a problem, because 1) they never notice any oil consumption (No Smell or Smoke), 2) there vehicle holds 4-5 (or more) quarts of oil. So a typical oil change interval of 3k (old standard) miles would only lose a couple of quarts. My problem is I bought a brand new bike, and under these conditions of 1qt/900 miles I would completely empty my bike of oil within 3600 miles (that well before the recommended oil change interval of 5k miles). And I shouldn't ever have to check my oil - it's a brand new f****** bike!!!!!

I checked my Air Filter last night, it wasn't oil soaked, did have a slight film of oil around the gasket to the throttle body, but I'm sure this is normal and not enough to cause any smell/smoke. My sportster had the same residue on it all of the time and I never had any oil burning issue with it.

Oct 18, 2016 | 07:02 AM

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jpooch00

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Originally Posted by dksob81

Well, I emailed the dealer I bought it from (bike town Harley in youngstown Ohio). The responded and said it could be normal. Harley specifies a maximum of 1qt per 900 miles. so if it's not more than that it is probably normal and they said it could just be normal operation, if you ride for a substantial time on the highway for 60-70mph, oil will accumulate in the rocker area and will get sucked into the intake. They told me to check the oil filter and see if it has a substantial oil build up. I will do that tonight and let you all know what I find...

That's ridiculous! That spec might have been valid for pre-1982 shovelhead motors which didn't have valve-stem seals (another "normal" thing with those engines was to change the plugs every 1000 miles due to oil fouling - said so right in the owner's manual.), but not for anything newer.

That dealer is fulla **** - just like most of 'em. If any modern two-cylinder, street legal motor vehicle engine is burning oil at that rate right out of the box and it's considered normal, then it wouldn't stand a chance of ever getting certified by the EPA to be sold in the US.

For the record, my '15 Limited consumes no measurable amount of H-D dino oil between 3000 mile changes and neither does my '94 Dyna.

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Oct 18, 2016 | 07:10 AM

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piper59

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Try changing out your cylinder head temperature sensor.Friend of mine said his buddy's bike was doing the same thing & the faulty sensor was causing the bike to run rich,fouling the plugs & using oil.After changing the sensor it quit.Won't necessarily throw a trouble code either.This is according to my friend who knows his stuff.Me,not so much.Worth a try!

Oct 18, 2016 | 12:32 PM

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BigMike

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I'd be furious. If the dealer didn't fix it, I'd do a leak down test and show them the results. If you don't have the tools/skills to do it, pay an Indy. If they saw the results and still wouldn't fit it, I would tear down the engine myself documenting it the entire way with pictures and show them the problem and then ask for reembursement. HD's quality is turning to ****.