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Old Dec 30, 2016 | 10:07 PM
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2016 ULTRA LIMITED 26,399
2017 ULTRA LIMITED 26,999

A difference of $600. If you financed the bike for 36 months, your difference in payments would be less than 17 dollars a month, not including the additional negligible finance charge.

In basic math, it would cost you less than 5 cents a day for those less than "vast" improvements.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2016 | 07:09 AM
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Stopped in the dealership, decide to do it a bit sooner called wife to come down with 2 of the grandchildren and pick a color. Traded my 2016 that day. Not one regrets. No disrespect for the 2016 but the 2017 is better.
As for ride, I noticed it right away. Wife first ride with me, she notice the smother engine and the ride right away. We played with adjusting the rear shock and it got even better two up. She has been riding with me for 41 years. She notices things on the bikes faster than I do.
Bikes are planned purchases for us we know we are riding until we can't any more. The money is put aside so it is there when the time comes to trade off.
Some one will get a great deal on the higher mileage 2016 RGU I traded. They will get a great ride that was well cared for and maintained right.
Still some years away we hope but the day will come when a 900 pound touring bike maybe to much for us, we are already looking at options so we are ready.
Trikes are not for us so likely a good side car set up will be how we deal with age .
You know little about a bike from a short test ride. 1000 miles in the seat then you know. I joined the RG family in 2007 with a RG, then the RGU in 2011 totaled that one then a 2013 RGU, 2016 RGU now the 2017 RGU. Each has been a great bike and each new one better than the last.
How a man and his wife spend their entertainment money is up to them for us it is riding. Cruise ships are boring, never see us wasting our cash in some casino nor parked at some bar for hours.
So as to the OP's post. It all depends on how you see things. Is it just a bike of is it a part of your life. The 1996 FB We still have has never left for one good reason. Wife and I had so dam much fun on that bike we could never part with it. We may not live to ride but riding sure makes living fun.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2016 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by OldPhat
The Rushmore's were the last of the Twin Cam bikes, and the Milwaukee 8 is the new kid
in town. The M8 is not so great to make a lot of us want one, just because of more power,
and a smoother running engine, or better riding suspension, or the higher price to buy it.
We are going to keep our Bike, and watch those M 8's pull away from us, with a smoother
better riding Bike with higher payments. You are right oakmossy we will keep our Rushmore's.

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Have two 17's in the garage, wife traded her 15 Road Glide Special for a 17 road glide special. I traded my 15 CVO Road Glide Ultra for a 17 CVO Street Glide. the 15's were on 4 year loans, the 17's are on 4 year loans. Her New bike is 7 more a month. My New bike is 4 less a month.

Originally Posted by robbie52
There is a big difference in the handling and the M8 has more power in the range that touring bikes use. However, there is not much difference in overall horsepower and torque when compared to the 103 hi output. I like the new bikes, but not enough to trade my 2014 Limited.
My wife has gone from a 96" to a 103", she didn't notice any difference that she let me know about. She then went from a 103 with complete exhaust and tune to the 107 bone stock. He first comment was why didn't you warn me this bike has more acceleration.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2016 | 09:02 AM
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now the '17 cvo with the new engine, which i demoed, is a vast (distinctive) difference from the 107.
When the regular models gets that CVO engine with 124 ft lbs of torque, i may trade my just about perfect ( to me) 2014 SGS.

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Old Dec 31, 2016 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by oakmossy
now the '17 cvo with the new engine, which i demoed, is a vast (distinctive) difference from the 107.
When the regular models gets that CVO engine with 124 ft lbs of torque, i may trade my just about perfect 2014 SGS.
The stock 107 really is not that much of an improvement imo.
When the regular models gets that CVO engine with 124 ft lbs of torque, i may trade my just about perfect 2014 SGS ... be careful, you're vacillating ! :>)
 
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Old Dec 31, 2016 | 09:14 AM
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caught me..damn!
 
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Old Dec 31, 2016 | 09:23 AM
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I honestly couldn't tell the difference between the 107 I rode and the 114. In fact, we raced them side by side (because that's what you do on a demo ride) and it was dead even. Granted, the 114 was a heavier bike and I weighed more than the other rider on the RGC. I was on a CVO Limited for the race. But when I took the RGC (107) out, it wasn't noticeably different speed wise.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2016 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by smitty901
Traded my 2016 that day. Not one regrets. No disrespect for the 2016 but the 2017 is better.
As for ride, I noticed it right away.
Congratulations on the new purchase. I'm not doubting the new bike rides better, but I wonder how much of your review could be attributed to comparing a used machine that may have worm out parts (ie tires, suspension, rubber mounts, grips, seat, etc) with a new bike? I bet if you compared a 2016 bike with 20,000 miles to a new 2016 bike, you would also notice a difference.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2016 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by LQQK_OUT
Congratulations on the new purchase. I'm not doubting the new bike rides better, but I wonder how much of your review could be attributed to comparing a used machine that may have worm out parts (ie tires, suspension, rubber mounts, grips, seat, etc) with a new bike? I bet if you compared a 2016 bike with 20,000 miles to a new 2016 bike, you would also notice a difference.
Point noted. As I have said before. The real test of a new ride is riding it loaded they way you always are, on roads a trips you make often.
I am one of those that ride until it is not possible. rain cold heat. The 2017 M8 will make the Gatlinburg trip in May. A ride my wife and I do often. I have already ridden the bike two up and alone on rides that are done time and time again. My wife with me for 41 years I can tell she holds nothing back if something on a bike is not to her liking. Another shock to me was she preferred the stock seat to the hammock one we have. It was one of those did not madder to me so the Stock seat stayed. She made it clear that the bottoming out on big defects in the road is not a issue anymore.
 
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Originally Posted by nevada72
I'm holding out for the new frame. I'm also hoping they drop 100+ lbs.

I won't hold my breath.
A Harley model to lose a 100 pounds? When Oprah becomes anorexic
 
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