Waypoint/ROute limits within Boom
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Waypoint/ROute limits within Boom
I'm plotting a turn-by-turn Route 66 trip. Because of the 100 waypoint limit per route, I've broken my overall agenda into 14 routes (each with about 50-80 waypoints).
Is there any Boom limitation, in terms of having that many routes, with their respective waypoints, all loaded into Boom ?
Obviously I will be taking a flashdrive along the trip, containing all my routes, in case I need to perform a Boom reset ........ and of course, I could load/delete routes as needed along the way if there is a limit.
But just wondering if they can all be loaded up front.
Is there any Boom limitation, in terms of having that many routes, with their respective waypoints, all loaded into Boom ?
Obviously I will be taking a flashdrive along the trip, containing all my routes, in case I need to perform a Boom reset ........ and of course, I could load/delete routes as needed along the way if there is a limit.
But just wondering if they can all be loaded up front.
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I have not found documentation on how much memory is available to the system and what is counted.
From experience I have learned that the number of individual routes loaded matter less than the complexity of those routes. For instance I planned an 11 day, 2400 mile route with specific waypoints. I broke it down by days. With a factory reset on the system I could not load all of the days. When I combined days I had other failures. So I wound up loading a day or two at a time from the drive and deleting days past.
One thing to keep in mind is during the import. You'll see the options to "import all" when you see your waypoints. You only need to import the line item that reflects the name of the file you're loading. It will get the waypoints. If you select "import all" you will definitely run out of space because those items do not delete even if you delete the route.
As with most of this, YMMV.
Good luck.
From experience I have learned that the number of individual routes loaded matter less than the complexity of those routes. For instance I planned an 11 day, 2400 mile route with specific waypoints. I broke it down by days. With a factory reset on the system I could not load all of the days. When I combined days I had other failures. So I wound up loading a day or two at a time from the drive and deleting days past.
One thing to keep in mind is during the import. You'll see the options to "import all" when you see your waypoints. You only need to import the line item that reflects the name of the file you're loading. It will get the waypoints. If you select "import all" you will definitely run out of space because those items do not delete even if you delete the route.
As with most of this, YMMV.
Good luck.
Like VA Larry said, do not import all. Last year I had no issues loading 15 days of routes for a 6300 mile journey. Most GPX files are only 2kb to 3kb in size. I recommend having the files on a flash drive for back-up.
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With my trip only a few days away, I decided to load a few of my (15 planned) routes, just to make sure the routes worked ............ and am I glad I did !!! Everyone of my routes (I loaded just 1 route at a time) with over about 55 waypoints failed to open (even though the import itself worked). I tried regenerating the gpx files to see if it was a corrupted gpx file, but got the same error (opening the route would just 'hang'). Ended up having to do a radio reset to clear those routes.
So I ended up breaking up each of those 'big' routes (ranging from 52 - 86 waypoints) into 2 routes each, keeping the waypoints under 50 per route. Seems to work now.
Guess the waypoint limit is not always 99 - must be other stuff in the route taking up memory or something.
Anyone else having this waypoint limit problem ? BTW, I'm using TYRE to plan my routes and generate the gpx files.
SO glad I did not discover this during my trip.
So I ended up breaking up each of those 'big' routes (ranging from 52 - 86 waypoints) into 2 routes each, keeping the waypoints under 50 per route. Seems to work now.
Guess the waypoint limit is not always 99 - must be other stuff in the route taking up memory or something.
Anyone else having this waypoint limit problem ? BTW, I'm using TYRE to plan my routes and generate the gpx files.
SO glad I did not discover this during my trip.
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The more waypoints you have even if you say under the limit seems to cause the routes to corrupt or not function as expected. They do appear to get transferred from the USB drive but when you try to load one up it won't. It is best to create your routes with or break them up with 50 or less waypoints. I ended up mounting my Garmin Zumo on my bike and not even using the onboard Navi due to all the quirks it has with waypoints and corruption. I do 7000 mile 15 - 18 day trips and tend to have issues with one thing or another when it comes to routing. If there is no issue with it loading there will be an issue at some point in the route where you have to start the route over, either after a gas stop, food stop or photo stop and it doesn't start you back where you left off. You have to figure out where you are on your route and start at the closes waypoint you have in your route that is in front of you and that is frustrating when you are traveling in areas that you are not familiar with and might not know street names or other distinguishing details on the waypoints to know what it ahead of you or behind you. This typically isn't an issue on shorter local rides but this has happened to me several times on long distance trips and it was frustrating enough to mount my Zumo on my bike and not bother with the on board Navi.
I never had that with my Garmin. Typically it will ask if you want to be directed to the start of the route and if you say no then it will automatically route you to the closes waypoint/shaping point you have that is in front of you on the route.
If I didn't have a Zumo handy I would have to suck it up and deal with the issues of the BOOM Navi and try to figure out a workaround within the BOOM system but as of now my work around is Garmin.
I never had that with my Garmin. Typically it will ask if you want to be directed to the start of the route and if you say no then it will automatically route you to the closes waypoint/shaping point you have that is in front of you on the route.
If I didn't have a Zumo handy I would have to suck it up and deal with the issues of the BOOM Navi and try to figure out a workaround within the BOOM system but as of now my work around is Garmin.
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Agree with crump13 I've planned a 10 day route to the East coast. I broke the route into 10 separate days and will load one at at time on the Boom deleting the previous days.
I'm also loading the entire route on my cheap, bottom of the line Garmin Nui. Thats right, the entire return route, one big file, with no issues. It has a windshield mount, and blue tooth. I'm going to follow it and have the Boom for a back up.......LOL as if I'll ever need it.
I'm also loading the entire route on my cheap, bottom of the line Garmin Nui. Thats right, the entire return route, one big file, with no issues. It has a windshield mount, and blue tooth. I'm going to follow it and have the Boom for a back up.......LOL as if I'll ever need it.
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Dh_Meyer, you wrote: "I'm plotting a turn-by-turn Route 66 trip. Because of the 100 waypoint limit per route, I've broken my overall agenda into 14 routes (each with about 50-80 waypoints)."
I was just wondering if you did the turn-by-turn Route 66 routing yourself or if you were able to download it somewhere?
Plus, I just led a seven day trip coast to coast from Jacksonville, Fl. I broke the route down to daily gps files. I loaded on my bike and all the other Harleys riding with us and they worked just fine. I prefer breaking down to daily routes rather than having the whole trip on so I can see actual miles to the daily destination. My wife does not like me to put the ETA on the display because she says I take it as a challenge rather than an ETA. ;-)
I was just wondering if you did the turn-by-turn Route 66 routing yourself or if you were able to download it somewhere?
Plus, I just led a seven day trip coast to coast from Jacksonville, Fl. I broke the route down to daily gps files. I loaded on my bike and all the other Harleys riding with us and they worked just fine. I prefer breaking down to daily routes rather than having the whole trip on so I can see actual miles to the daily destination. My wife does not like me to put the ETA on the display because she says I take it as a challenge rather than an ETA. ;-)
Last edited by dgryder; Aug 27, 2017 at 11:06 AM.