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Old May 28, 2014 | 09:59 PM
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I got used to base camp and find that the easier to use. Ride Planner to me is great if you want to just take any easy point A to B route using main roads. Since you have to put in a starting point AND an ending point its like stretching a rubber band between these two points. Now if you want to take the roads you want between A & B you are trying to move this rubber band and Ride Planner keeps moving the line to get you to your point B forcing you to use more waypoints. Since Base Camp doesn't know what your endpoint it doesn't keep forcing the route.

You can download a map to your computer to use for BaseCamp which does not require a GPS connected to your PC.

If you load a route with more than 9 waypoints when you hit your 9th waypoint the GPS announces that you have arrived at your destination and thats it. It doesn't look at the route further than that. The GPS does not complain if you load a route that has greater than 9 waypoints, it will load it up like any other route.

I don't know why HD is taking so long to create an update to the software to eliminate that waypoint fiasco. It shouldn't take that much of a code change to make that happen. If you use the "Record" option to remember your route as you are riding it will quickly use up 9 waypoints, hence will not be usable at a later date when you would like to use that saved route.
 
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Old May 28, 2014 | 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by COWBOY1296
I called today and obviously i got someone who did not know what she was talking about. She was nice but insisted that the gps in the 2014 infotainment system was a Garmin, I was just as nice and told her that i did not think that it was. She was going to have one of the program writers call me and naturally they did not call. She further told me that she had not heard of the problems that i described to her regarding ride planner and the gps.

I immediately called garmin and asked the question to which i already had the answer to. The gps on the 2014 6.5 infotainment system is not garmin, big surprise.

So how am i as customer suppose to know how to operate the system when harley does not even know what system they installed.

Has anyone had any success with ride planner and routing?????????? If so what is your secret.



I have created over 60 routes using ride planner. It does not have all the bells and whistle base camp has. Works great for me. I also use base camp a lot.
 
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Old May 28, 2014 | 11:55 PM
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Ask for Dave #(2220299) at Harley customer service. He likes hearing about the GPS.
 
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Old May 29, 2014 | 05:03 AM
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I need to amend a car park stop on a route, I have opened my saved ride/route and dragged the route to include a different car park then saved the ride with the amended stop in it and when I've gone to re-open the ride/route it still shows the first car park, not the amended one!! any idea's as i don't fancy re doing the route.
RIDE PLANNER is really basic to get you going
BASECAMP is an utter PIA to use
MAPSOURCE is good and easy to to use but now outdated (what was Garmin thinking replacing that with the CRAP that is BASECAMP???)

AND WHAT WAS H-D DOING ABANDONING GARMIN AND GOING WITH I-GO??? probably saving $20 per unit
 
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Old May 29, 2014 | 07:07 AM
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Even though i am not up on base camp i think that i would rather teach myself it then continue to work with ride planner. BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTT are yall actually saying that base camp works on the 2014 gps?????? I tried it and it did no better than ride planner. If i had to guess i am getting the route to the gps just fine but doing something wrong at the gps
 
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Old May 29, 2014 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by COWBOY1296
Even though i am not up on base camp i think that i would rather teach myself it then continue to work with ride planner. BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTT are yall actually saying that base camp works on the 2014 gps?????? I tried it and it did no better than ride planner. If i had to guess i am getting the route to the gps just fine but doing something wrong at the gps
From the perspective of the 2014 Harley GPS it doesnt care what program you use, whether that is BaseCamp or Ride Planner, or whatever as long as your file is a .gpx
 
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Old May 29, 2014 | 08:09 AM
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That is interesting since i have had problems routing with base camp and ride planner. That somewhat narrows it down to the bike. It seems that i can load either on the bike, can open both, can calculate both but when driving i keep getting pulled off of the route. On my recent trip i was 300 miles away from my destination but the gps said that i was 100.
 
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Old May 29, 2014 | 08:42 AM
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oh i think i might know why, did you have a waypoint coming up? the GPS tracks to the next waypoint. i have noticed that it does that as well. when you ride through that waypoint it will then show the miles to the next waypoint in the list or to the end point, which ever is next.
 
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Old May 29, 2014 | 09:29 AM
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Just a somewhat quick tutorial for anyone interested on using BaseCamp. And for reference sake I am running the current version (4.2.4) on a MAC.

I do not use the feature that brings up a window called the Drag and Drop for the Start and Destination. Instead I click on File then select New List, then I get the map ready and zoomed in where I am going to start my route.

1) At the top of the map there are some buttons and one of them is a 90 degree bent line with three squares on it. Click that button and that starts the process of creating your route. Now click on the map where you want to start your trip. After you click on that spot on the map you will see that when you move the mouse there is a line ready to create your route.
2) Now start to move your mouse and to force the program to take your roads at some point you will have to click on a road say right after a turn and that will drop a waypoint, and you will see a purple highlighted line which is your route. If you find that you clicked too far away on the map and the program took some roads that you didn't want to take, go up to the top and click on Edit then Undo, which will take you back to the last waypoint. So you might have to click on a road sooner to make the map take the roads you want to use. If you need to zoom out or in on the map use the scroll button on the mouse, if you need to move the map use the arrow buttons to move the map up, down,right or left.
3) Once you have finished your route move your mouse to the button on the top of the map and click the box that has a hand. Once you click on that hand it stops the process of creating a route. If you click the hand you are no longer in the create route mode.
4) on the left side hand side of the screen on the bottom half you will see your route listed and will have some weird name using addresses and street names. If you right click that name you will see options, select Get Info and a small window will open up. That is your route, and if you notice near the top of that window is that weird route name and a small box that is checked - Autoname. Uncheck that box and now you can name your route to something more meaningful to you. Also another good thing I just learned is all your waypoints are listed there, if you right click any of the waypoints that are not your starting or ending points you can select Do Not Alert on Arrival which then makes that into just a shaping point. If you dont do that the GPS will tell you for instance that the destination is two miles away, then when you finally reach that waypoint then it says you have arrived at your waypoint or destination, then after that will alert you at the next waypoint and so on which is annoying. Close that small window.
5) On the top left hand side where it shows your route as "New List" you can right click that and rename that to a more meaningful name as well.
6)insert a USB drive into your PC, highlight the route name on the lower left, then go up to the top menu and select TRANSFER then SEND to device. the route will then be copied to your USB drive and then you can use that to load the route to the GPS on the bike.

Hope i got all that correct And we are still bound by the 9 waypoint/shaping points per route so hopefully you were able to make your route in under 9 waypoints.
 
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Old May 29, 2014 | 10:06 AM
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Thanks so much for that tutorial. I prefer base camp, even though i dont know it yet. I have had a few issues getting on ride planner. I have had issues with being forced on a route on there that i was not wanting. And finally on occasion i got the error message that "imagery not available".

So for me i will go with base camp, I need to learn it anyhow since i have a topo held gps to use on search and rescue missions.

I created a word document out of the tutorial and saved it on my computer for easy ref.

Thanks again.
 
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