The Everything 2018+ Heritage Thread
#1251
Congrats...good looking scoot. Welcome to the new Heritage club
Now with a few $k additional you can make it yours and yours alone.
I'm sure you have been reading the threads herein. The first mods you shoud consider right away are Fangs (fork mounted wind deflectors) and a recurve windshied. They almost eliminate wind buffeting, making riding it much more comfortable. Then a improved seat, upgraded air breather, handlbar risers, LED's all around, engine guard, sissy bar with luggage rack, etc., ect., ect.
Enjoy and ride safe.
Now with a few $k additional you can make it yours and yours alone.
I'm sure you have been reading the threads herein. The first mods you shoud consider right away are Fangs (fork mounted wind deflectors) and a recurve windshied. They almost eliminate wind buffeting, making riding it much more comfortable. Then a improved seat, upgraded air breather, handlbar risers, LED's all around, engine guard, sissy bar with luggage rack, etc., ect., ect.
Enjoy and ride safe.
Last edited by FrankEV; 01-27-2019 at 02:59 PM.
#1252
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#1253
#1255
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#1256
stage 2
Hi every one. I was thinking about doing a stage 2, on my 2018 FLHC. My Harley dealer wants me to go with a zippers 468 cam. I am concerned about my warranty. My dealer says i wont louse it , they will back me up. what do you all think. Also they quoted me 9 hrs dyno time and labor. Seams like a lot of time, to me
#1257
Hi every one. I was thinking about doing a stage 2, on my 2018 FLHC. My Harley dealer wants me to go with a zippers 468 cam. I am concerned about my warranty. My dealer says i wont louse it , they will back me up. what do you all think. Also they quoted me 9 hrs dyno time and labor. Seams like a lot of time, to me
Here's the problem -- if you use an aftermarket non-EPA cam, it may amount to defeating the EPA emissions control system on your bike, which is expressly called out in your warranty as something that will void your warranty. Now, if the cam doesn't actually cause emissions outside of EPA compliance, then ... technically, by the letter of the law, Harley cannot void your warranty under the Magnusson Moss act (unless the cam specifically causes the failure of an otherwise covered part). But here's the thing -- if it doesn't go beyond EPA compliance, then -- why not just get the Harley cam, which delivers about all the performance you can get and stay within EPA compliance? Because the real issue is, it's probably not possible to properly tune an aftermarket cam using the Harley tuner. Aftermarket cam generally means needing to use an aftermarket tuner. And if you use an aftermarket tuner, your powertrain warranty is toast, immediately. But if you go around riding on a bike that's tuned wrong, and the reason it is tuned wrong is the cam, then -- well, that can cause problems, and those are specifically the situations where the Magnusson Moss act won't protect you, and Harley would be in their rights to deny warranty claims in those areas.
So ask your dealer what tuner they plan to use on the 468 cam. If they say they are going to use a PowerVision or TTS or something, anything other than the Harley Screamin' Eagle Pro Street Tuner, then -- your warranty will be voided as per the federal courts, and if your dealer tells you otherwise, run like hell from that dealer.
If they say they're going to use the Harley SEPST tuner, then ... well, technically, they may be right, but you'd have to ask the professional tuner guys here (like "harleytuner" or Bob Lobenberg or Steve Cole or Jamie at Fuelmoto) if they think a bike can be properly tuned with an RS468 by the SEPST. If it can, then ...
Last edited by FatBob2018; 01-31-2019 at 10:41 AM.
#1258
Hi every one. I was thinking about doing a stage 2, on my 2018 FLHC. My Harley dealer wants me to go with a zippers 468 cam. I am concerned about my warranty. My dealer says i wont louse it , they will back me up. what do you all think. Also they quoted me 9 hrs dyno time and labor. Seams like a lot of time, to me
#1259
That's a curious stance for a dealer to take. Get it in writing from them that if Harley voids your powertrain warranty or refuses any warranty claim, that the dealer will pay for it. If they won't, then -- seriously, find another dealer.
Here's the problem -- if you use an aftermarket non-EPA cam, it may amount to defeating the EPA emissions control system on your bike, which is expressly called out in your warranty as something that will void your warranty. Now, if the cam doesn't actually cause emissions outside of EPA compliance, then ... technically, by the letter of the law, Harley cannot void your warranty under the Magnusson Moss act (unless the cam specifically causes the failure of an otherwise covered part). But here's the thing -- if it doesn't go beyond EPA compliance, then -- why not just get the Harley cam, which delivers about all the performance you can get and stay within EPA compliance? Because the real issue is, it's probably not possible to properly tune an aftermarket cam using the Harley tuner. Aftermarket cam generally means needing to use an aftermarket tuner. And if you use an aftermarket tuner, your powertrain warranty is toast, immediately. But if you go around riding on a bike that's tuned wrong, and the reason it is tuned wrong is the cam, then -- well, that can cause problems, and those are specifically the situations where the Magnusson Moss act won't protect you, and Harley would be in their rights to deny warranty claims in those areas.
So ask your dealer what tuner they plan to use on the 468 cam. If they say they are going to use a PowerVision or TTS or something, anything other than the Harley Screamin' Eagle Pro Street Tuner, then -- your warranty will be voided as per the federal courts, and if your dealer tells you otherwise, run like hell from that dealer.
If they say they're going to use the Harley SEPST tuner, then ... well, technically, they may be right, but you'd have to ask the professional tuner guys here (like "harleytuner" or Bob Lobenberg or Steve Cole or Jamie at Fuelmoto) if they think a bike can be properly tuned with an RS468 by the SEPST. If it can, then ...
Here's the problem -- if you use an aftermarket non-EPA cam, it may amount to defeating the EPA emissions control system on your bike, which is expressly called out in your warranty as something that will void your warranty. Now, if the cam doesn't actually cause emissions outside of EPA compliance, then ... technically, by the letter of the law, Harley cannot void your warranty under the Magnusson Moss act (unless the cam specifically causes the failure of an otherwise covered part). But here's the thing -- if it doesn't go beyond EPA compliance, then -- why not just get the Harley cam, which delivers about all the performance you can get and stay within EPA compliance? Because the real issue is, it's probably not possible to properly tune an aftermarket cam using the Harley tuner. Aftermarket cam generally means needing to use an aftermarket tuner. And if you use an aftermarket tuner, your powertrain warranty is toast, immediately. But if you go around riding on a bike that's tuned wrong, and the reason it is tuned wrong is the cam, then -- well, that can cause problems, and those are specifically the situations where the Magnusson Moss act won't protect you, and Harley would be in their rights to deny warranty claims in those areas.
So ask your dealer what tuner they plan to use on the 468 cam. If they say they are going to use a PowerVision or TTS or something, anything other than the Harley Screamin' Eagle Pro Street Tuner, then -- your warranty will be voided as per the federal courts, and if your dealer tells you otherwise, run like hell from that dealer.
If they say they're going to use the Harley SEPST tuner, then ... well, technically, they may be right, but you'd have to ask the professional tuner guys here (like "harleytuner" or Bob Lobenberg or Steve Cole or Jamie at Fuelmoto) if they think a bike can be properly tuned with an RS468 by the SEPST. If it can, then ...
#1260
Not gonna say dealer names. I live a little north of Dayton