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Just got my 18 Heritage...

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Old Jul 1, 2019 | 07:04 PM
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Looking forward to the next 1200 miles. Leaving tomorrow early, heading up to play in the Smokey's for a couple days, then an evening in Savannah on the way back. So far that 107" is plenty. Even roll-on in 6th at 75 had plenty of pull, and she just floats right down the 275 all the way home. Not a fan of the throttle by wire though, too much hesitation between the twist and the pull, and the locks on them bags are Grade-A chintzy.

Anything I should be aware of while I get used to her?
 
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Old Jul 1, 2019 | 07:49 PM
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Just ride and enjoy. Some aren’t used to the new kickstand. Didn’t bother me, but make sure it’s fully down when you park. Some report the bags leaking in rain, mine haven’t so far. The TBW lag can be adjusted/removed with a tuner. Should be all smiles for your miles.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2019 | 09:56 PM
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Do a follow up post when you get back from the trip, or DM me if you think of it. I pick up my new Heritage next week and my biggest concern is how it will handle a long trip. The baby saddlebags are a pain but I worry more about the wind on my face. On the test drive anything over 65 moved me around pretty good. Looking at installing fork air deflectors (if I can find them for the 2019) and a larger windshield. Coming off an Ultra Limited so I know I am spoiled but these old bones are made for shaking in the saddle all day.

Thanks.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2019 | 10:39 PM
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Take the time to adjust your preload on your shock when going from solo to two up. My actually works, first time setting shocks made a huge difference .
Very happy with the ride.
Little bit of wind buffeting taken care of with fork fangs.
Had a latch on the saddle bag replaced already.
I think they are the biggest negative on the whole bike. You should have lots of fun with it.
I have "only" the 107 and it packs a punch.
Have a safe trip.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2019 | 10:44 PM
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Hey Tjenson the wind deflectors i have are here.
https://www.jescustomaccents.com/Win...FTail-Hert.htm
Chrome or black. They make a difference.
Never tried with stock windshield. I put on a lrs with the recurve at at the top.
 

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Old Jul 1, 2019 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Thingfish
The TBW lag can be adjusted/removed with a tuner.
There is no throttle lag to speak of, there is a programmed progressivity of the twist grip % rotation to throttle plate % open. From the H-D street tuner.




Here is a quote from Steve Cole explaining it:

One must first understand that there is no reason to open the throttle blade any further than you need to reach atmospheric pressure. Once the MAP is equal to atmospheric (Baro) pressure there is nothing more to be gained and even some to be lost! So if you could hold your engine at a fixed RPM and increase the throttle until you reach Baro with the MAP that's all you need at that RPM. That value would be the max you wanted at the 100% Twist Grip Position. Now if you make it one to one you can screw up the idle and the idle follower circuit as well so one needs to be careful. Another got ya is when trying to ride slow in parking lots for example you can make the throttle too jumpy or on a slow bumpy road you can get the same issue. Now once you get past all that you have to worry about the cruise control if equipped for smoothness of operation.

So there is a little more to it than meets the eye at first glance and you need to be careful. Some think it will help throttle response but when using TTS base calibrations we have found that most that have an issue with throttle response do not have the low throttle area tuned properly. Once properly tuned any perceived issue was gone. So my feeling is too many use it as a crutch for a poor low speed tune up.

No, it can cause the engine not to return to idle properly when you let off and cause the idle to hunt up and down. If your going to mess with it I would leave everything below 5% alone. It's just not as simple as some would like it to be and if you do a test you can determine that there is no reason for it to go to 100% at anything below 2500 RPM unless the engine is so big that the throttle body is way to small.

Here's how it is set in a TTS tune for a stock 107.

 
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Yes a much better and more in depth answer than I gave.

I’ve had the good fortune to meet and talk to Steve. He certainly knows his stuff.
 

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I have noticed the wind buffeting already, but it's nothing that'll deter my enjoyment. What surprises me is my 1994 Road King has substantially less buffeting with essentially the same windshield.

Regarding the tuner and throttle lag, I realize why it happens, I still don't like it. The feel of not being 100% in control of the bike just doesn't sit well with me.

On my way!!! Later fellas. I'll update from the road if I have questions, otherwise I'll update Saturday evening with a full recap.
 
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Congrats, Matt. Hope you’re having a great trip with your new ride.

It usually takes me a few hours of riding to adjust to any new motorcycle, whether it’s the throttle, the clutch, the shifter, the handling, or the brakes. They’re all a little different and we the rider are the part of the equation that adjusts the quickest. Bet you’re already there with this ride. (although the posts on the throttle map are interesting).

Congrats again. Enjoy your new scoot!
 
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Old Jul 2, 2019 | 07:31 AM
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I love my 19 Heritage. No problem with wind buffeting in my opinion. The 107 moves this machine with ease. Very comfortable. I just had my 1K service done Saturday. I moved up from an Iron 883.
 
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