Kickstand “ENGINEERING CODE CRACKED”
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hanging around? I posted 1 reply, is there a chastity lock on this thread monitored by you? The guy posted and I quote ( am I missing something) meaning should I be aware. You come back with you can go now! If my bike falls over I will ask you for a video on how to put my kick stand down 😂 oh but wait you are still trying to figure it out. I will come back!
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Yes I get that the stand needs to swing forward past the 90deg mark to reach its keyway locked position.
The problem is the stand comes into contact with the ground well before it even reaches the 90deg position "IF" the rider remains seated with their full body weight on the bike which in turn keeps the bikes suspension compressed which in turn keeps the bikes frame lower to the ground where if they simply relieved the bikes suspension of their body weight the frame would rise upwards giving the stand enough ground clearance to freely swing forward into its locked position.
The problem is the stand comes into contact with the ground well before it even reaches the 90deg position "IF" the rider remains seated with their full body weight on the bike which in turn keeps the bikes suspension compressed which in turn keeps the bikes frame lower to the ground where if they simply relieved the bikes suspension of their body weight the frame would rise upwards giving the stand enough ground clearance to freely swing forward into its locked position.
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all i can add is on my 18fatboy i frigging hate this stand. its not like any other harley ive seen or owned. sometimes when getting off of the bike it feels like its going to roll forward and fall over. and other times its standing almost straight up. go figure. it feels like the stand is sinking into the ground. it gets me every damn time. hard to get used to this feeling. no other harley i have owned has done this.
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Think it should be mandatory to get a motorcycle license and ride larger machines the applicant must spend 6 months on a kick start only motorcycle.
Two things will come of this,
#1 They will will never call it a Jiffy stand again may god be praised
#2 They will learn the proper use and trust of a system that's been doing a great job for a 100 plus years without all the this hand wringing ninny bullshit about it.
Just my 2 cents....
Two things will come of this,
#1 They will will never call it a Jiffy stand again may god be praised
#2 They will learn the proper use and trust of a system that's been doing a great job for a 100 plus years without all the this hand wringing ninny bullshit about it.
Just my 2 cents....
It's called a jiffy stand and I refuse to compromise on this point - RevZilla
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I'm confused, why not call it what it is? The Jiffy Stand is a Harley-Davidson invention and is not a "kick-stand"
It's called a jiffy stand and I refuse to compromise on this point - RevZilla
It's called a jiffy stand and I refuse to compromise on this point - RevZilla
Tells me volumes about a person's riding history or lack of it.
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Oh, you're one of Those Guys. Got it.
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Well as much as I don't like the name, and use the term kickstand out of long habit, it is called a jiffy stand in the 2018 Parts Manual...
FRAME AND JIFFY STAND (1 OF 2)
FRAME AND JIFFY STAND (2 OF 2)
FRAME AND JIFFY STAND (1 OF 2)
FRAME AND JIFFY STAND (2 OF 2)