Well I guess I'm just going to hafta be a pronoun violator cause it'll always be a freaking kickstand to me and no...I don't need a history lesson on patents or the mechanical differences. LOL!

 

You mean one of those guys who've been on these things living the life before it became popular for 50+ years ? Yeah I'm on of those.....

 

I hear ya. I didn't get my first Harley until I had been riding for nearly 40 years, and to be honest the name jiffy stand has always seemed kind of gay, as in lame, to me.

 

Kick stand, Jiffy stand - whatever, as long as you know what is being discussed. Now off to change the "clip" in my 1911.

 

No, I mean one of those old geezers who think their age and time in the saddle gives them a mythical power to derogatorily dismiss the views of others. It's the same thing that Woke liberals do, but they don't use age as an excuse.

For the record I've been "living the life" as you put it for 40+ years so don't pat yourself on the back thinking that you're arguing with some fuc-king millennial or Gen Z bastard. I am an engineer by trade, knowing and using the proper names for things is important.

You want to stand around with your buddies at the old folks home jawing about "back in the day, my kick stand done did collapse and nearly brokedid my leg", good for you just don't tell me I'm "hand wringing"

 

How many magazines does your clip hold?

 

It sounds even gayer, as in gayer if it's pronounced with a lisp.

 

yep...we got us an engineer.

 

Not having a newer Harley, and never having a problem with any of the older one's I've owned or currently own, I can say I'm happy as a clam with the weight locking design. And I'm not lifting my butt off the saddle to deploy it either. I just lean a little to the right if I need to. I've been at rally's and had to ride my bike off the stand because some A Hole parked on top of me. Even taught my wife how to do it.
When my Dyna was rear ended while parked at work in Neutral with the forks locked it was pushed up over the curb, bounced off a planter and came back down over the curb still standing!
A coworker had an old "Air Head" (BMW) and we sometimes let him ride with us in a group. When we all started up to leave every time you'd hear him cuss and say "Kick Stand Stupid!" His bike would die when put in gear when his was down.
Lastly, I just want to share one time I saw a guy with a 80s(?) Sportster in a gas station hit the go button while standing beside it. The bike took off in huge circles for a while with him running beside it before he could hit the kill switch. All the while with the stand down. They're great!

 

Think you've got a corner on that? I deal with engineers daily and most don't know their elbow from their ******* because the computer program they are using didn't show them. My job revolves heavily around finding a workable option for what they bring print wise, what they think they want and what the job actually needs and let's not get into the language barrier and " correct " names of things.

Get over your yourself. Like it or not real knowledge comes with age and experience.