2018+ Softail Models Breakout

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Old Apr 4, 2024 | 09:10 AM
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I had the same problem; H-D usb port could not keep iPhone 14 running GPS app charged. New, higher quality cable fixed it. Until I tried running a music app at the same time.

This fixed it:
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Now I can run 2 apps with phone unplugged, it stays in my pocket. I expect that a long riding day, which hasn't happened yet, will require that the phone get plugged in at some point. Because the phone's display is off battery life is extended.

I have bluetooth speaker, but don't have a mic yet.

I wound up installing the H-D Electrical Connection Harness 69201599A to get multiple 12v power sources too.
Yes... These CarPlay/Android Auto displays for motorcycles are being sold everywhere under various brand names... I got a 5" unit on my Heritage. Works great. My phone sits in my windshield bag with the screen off and connected to the Heritage's USB charging port. I have no issues with charging capacity. The CP/AA takes all the environmental punishment and spares my phone. The CP/AA display also plays well with my Cardo. Intercom, phone calls, music, podcast... it all works fine.

 
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Old Apr 4, 2024 | 11:03 AM
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Unless I missed something... thought the goal was to deliver more power via USB-C. Do those existing wires have the capacity for the increased load? Then there's the fuses...
The wires are 18 gauge, should provide plenty of power. The conversion down to low power is done by the USB device itself, as it needs to change the 12v supply down to 5v output.

As for fuses, that whole harness appears to be on a 15a circuit. The 69201750 cable that plugs into it is designed to run heated grips and a splitter too, so the core power delivery to that caddy harness should easily support a USB-C port.
 
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@Howler_LI and @T^2 , are you able to use those screens while wearing gloves? That's a big thing I do not like about my phone, it needs a bare finger or a condom on my glove in order to respond.
If these units work fine with gloves, that kinda changes things. I'd still want better power, and I'd probably still leave the phone up in its cradle. But a bigger and more easily manipulated display sure would be nice.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2024 | 01:02 PM
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@Howler_LI and @T^2 , are you able to use those screens while wearing gloves? That's a big thing I do not like about my phone, it needs a bare finger or a condom on my glove in order to respond.
If these units work fine with gloves, that kinda changes things. I'd still want better power, and I'd probably still leave the phone up in its cradle. But a bigger and more easily manipulated display sure would be nice.
Depends on the glove. My gloves are touch screen compatible (thumb and forefinger on each hand). Non-touch screen compatible gloves would likely be problematic. So, if you got appropriate gloves, the CP/AA displays work great.

Here is a picture of my display mounted on the bike (phone tucked away in windshield bag)... for what it's worth...



 
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Old Apr 5, 2024 | 03:51 AM
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Wonderful idea! I will be able to watch a film while riding. Now if only someone would make an ashtray for a motorcycle .
 
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Old Apr 5, 2024 | 06:51 AM
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[QUOTE=foxtrapper;21633144] are you able to use those screens while wearing gloves? /QUOTE]

I've used all of mine; light, mid-weight & thick heated. No problem with gloves. An advantage of the 7" screen is the CarPlay icons are physically big & easier to hit while moving, even with gloves.

Of course, once into an app it depends on the design of the app. You shouldn't be entering addresses or fine-tuning an app while riding anyway. Generally, you'll be able to select a pre-entered address (favorites / recent) wearing gloves.
And btw, only CarPlay apps are available from the phone. So make sure the apps you want are compatible.
 
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Wonderful idea! I will be able to watch a film while riding. Now if only someone would make an ashtray for a motorcycle .
Having to stop for gas while watching a movie ruins the whole experience! And OP, there's no way you're going to load an SD card while wearing gloves.
 
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Wonderful idea! I will be able to watch a film while riding. Now if only someone would make an ashtray for a motorcycle .
Sorry. Don't think that will be happening with CarPlay or Android Auto.
 
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Chuckle, not looking to play with SD cards, watch movies or other such distracting stuff.

The bigger screen to display a larger map is the main appeal of this type of screen.

But also it if can respond like a GPS unit of old did, that would be great. Then I can easily swipe or zoom in and out with ease.

Old GPS units didn't care what touched their screen, they simply responded to the touch. I think that's resistive touch, and it was darn useful. Gloves, a stick, your finger, it didn't care.

The phone on the other hand, it wants only your finger, or a magical stylus or fabric. Think this type is capacitive touch. It's a pain in the butt, requiring special gloves or special finger condoms, and even then it's not reliable or consistent.

So if a display like this can be larger than my phone, better touch response than my phone, and hopefully more visible in bright light than my phone (my old garmin GPS is), those are all winning points.

But, if the display is bad or it doesn't respond to a gloved touch, then I'm far less interested. I'm also not at all sure about pairing the phone up to the display and my headset. Usually you can't pair to two things at the same time, although there are exceptions.
 
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Originally Posted by foxtrapper
Chuckle, not looking to play with SD cards, watch movies or other such distracting stuff.

The bigger screen to display a larger map is the main appeal of this type of screen.

But also it if can respond like a GPS unit of old did, that would be great. Then I can easily swipe or zoom in and out with ease.

Old GPS units didn't care what touched their screen, they simply responded to the touch. I think that's resistive touch, and it was darn useful. Gloves, a stick, your finger, it didn't care.

The phone on the other hand, it wants only your finger, or a magical stylus or fabric. Think this type is capacitive touch. It's a pain in the butt, requiring special gloves or special finger condoms, and even then it's not reliable or consistent.

So if a display like this can be larger than my phone, better touch response than my phone, and hopefully more visible in bright light than my phone (my old garmin GPS is), those are all winning points.

But, if the display is bad or it doesn't respond to a gloved touch, then I'm far less interested. I'm also not at all sure about pairing the phone up to the display and my headset. Usually you can't pair to two things at the same time, although there are exceptions.
Can't speak to all models/offerings of these CP/AA displays... But I would suspect they are all probably capacitive displays. I've had no problem with my display using either my summer gloves or much bulkier heated winter gloves (both sets of gloves are touch screen compatible). Screen brightness has not be a problem either (works well in all lighting conditions). No issues with paring multiple devices. Currently, I pair my display with my phone and my Cardo intercom. The interplay between all 3 device works as expected. Hard to beat CP/AA for the navigation, music, phone, and communication experience. Other useful CP/AA apps also exist. For example weather radar apps for CP/AA - which can come in handy when there is uncertainty about weather ahead while out and about. Nice to be able to pop open that weather radar app to see where you are in relation to that storm that might be heading into your current path.

Perhaps getting such a display and a nice pair of touch screen compatible gloves might be far less of a hassle, perhaps less costly, and ultimately more useful than trying to retrofit a USB-C port onto the bike.
 
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