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Old Sep 29, 2014 | 09:11 AM
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Once I decide on where to get my lids I also need to decide on what to fill them with, and what is going to drive them. I have a PBR300X2 driving the front Infinity Kappa'62.11i. My H/U is a Sony DSX-S310BTX

There are threads that rave about these D6902R from Pioneer. They seem like a steal at $85. Are these Titan II's really worth the extra $$$. I mean thats around $360 if I subtract the $288

If you had the choice, what would you do? What amp would you use to drive them?

BT479HT 6X9" Titan II speakers with Hogtunes Lids - $649
http://www.biketronics.com/bt479ht-6...d-speaker-kit/


HOGTUNES HT-LID SPEAKER - $288
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOG-TUNES-HO...12256d&vxp=mtr
PIONEER TS-D6902R - $84.95
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Old Sep 29, 2014 | 09:31 AM
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I'm in the same boat thinking about this winter
 
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Old Sep 29, 2014 | 10:35 AM
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"many" of us here have lid speakers. if you read up on it, "we" like the HT lids the best.
Waterproof speakers do not really exists and should not be a factor IMHO as you can do some cheap 'mods" to keep your speakers and bags "dry".

Also "IMO" the lid speakers are not you most important speakers, your fairing is...

it is all about your budget and with that said with the previous "statement" it is up to you... would I like to test the BTs or have them on my bike? probably yes, but I am happy with my (for me 70 bucks) Pioneers.

it also depends on what you are looking for from a sound perspective... are you looking for BASS, then money wise the Pioneers can basically not been beaten.
there are other similar priced speakers - up to 150 ish - that have a different sound (read f.e. better mids/highs, a bit less Bass)

of course BT's life time warranty is "unique" and provides a piece of mind to some...

others will chime in here - I am sure...

It does bring up a tought on my side again to create an extensive post with "all the options" for amp / fairing / lowers / pods / lid speakers and their "overall" ratings...
some food for thought for myself (where I would need help from other "audio seniors" here... as I have not heard many of the options available...
 
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Old Sep 29, 2014 | 12:29 PM
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I considered the Pioneers before I went with some Kicker 11KS69's. I knew I wasn't going to spend a lot of $$ on lid speakers because I knew I'd get caught in rain. That said, I did treat/use some Cycle Sounds hydrophobic cloth over the speakers. I also liked the Kickers because they have polypropylene woofers, butyl rubber surrounds and titanium tweeters. Just "sounded" more weather resistant and sound good too ...
 
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Old Sep 29, 2014 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SFDonovan
Once I decide on where to get my lids I also need to decide on what to fill them with, and what is going to drive them. I have a PBR300X2 driving the front Infinity Kappa'62.11i. My H/U is a Sony DSX-S310BTX

There are threads that rave about these D6902R from Pioneer. They seem like a steal at $85. Are these Titan II's really worth the extra $$$. I mean thats around $360 if I subtract the $288

If you had the choice, what would you do? What amp would you use to drive them?

BT479HT 6X9" Titan II speakers with Hogtunes Lids - $649
http://www.biketronics.com/bt479ht-6...d-speaker-kit/


HOGTUNES HT-LID SPEAKER - $288
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOG-TUNES-HO...12256d&vxp=mtr
PIONEER TS-D6902R - $84.95
Amazon.com : PIONEER TS-D6902R 2 WAY 6X9 360W CAR SPEAKERS ( PAIR ) : Vehicle Speakers : Car Electronics Amazon.com : PIONEER TS-D6902R 2 WAY 6X9 360W CAR SPEAKERS ( PAIR ) : Vehicle Speakers : Car Electronics
Are the BT speakers worth it? YES. Will the Pioneers sound just as good? YES. The key to lid speakers is power. I have at least 5 pair of 6 x 9's and they all sound good at 150 watts. As troop said the kickers are awesome but so are the Pioneers, Infinity's, Fosgates, JL's, and JBL's powered at 150 watts. Can't hardly beat the Pioneers with the RZ4 amp if you are on a budget. 200.00 bucks. Done.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2014 | 02:38 PM
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Since the D6902R are 4 ohms, I assume you mean the RZ4-2000D for $109? I can't use the RZ4-2000D for my front 2 ohm Kappa 62.11i's.

Do I need to be worried about mixing these two amps on the same system? My 2 ohm Kappa 62.11i's running from the PBR300X2, and the 4 ohm D6902R's powered by the RZ4-2000D?

Where could I mount the RZ4-2000D?
 
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Old Sep 29, 2014 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SFDonovan
Since the D6902R are 4 ohms, I assume you mean the RZ4-2000D for $109? I can't use the RZ4-2000D for my front 2 ohm Kappa 62.11i's.

Do I need to be worried about mixing these two amps on the same system? My 2 ohm Kappa 62.11i's running from the PBR300X2, and the 4 ohm D6902R's powered by the RZ4-2000D?

Where could I mount the RZ4-2000D?
This might not be quite the same but what I experienced mixing 4 ohm and 2 ohm amps, yes it does "work". I had 2ohm boom fairing speakers and tour pack speakers that I pushed with a J&M 250 amp, all 2 ohm. Recently I changed the fairing speakers to BT 7.1 4 ohm speakers and a 4 channel BT 4180 4ohm amp. Since I was still using the rear 2 ohm speakers for now I tried using my J&M amp mounted to a hog tunes "second amp" rack that mounts in the fairing off to the side of the radio to power the rear speakers. I intended to just power the BT 7.1's with the front channel of the BT 4180 until I could get some lower fairing speakers to use the other two channels on. It worked but the front was way over powered compared to the sound of the rear. I ended up pulling the J&M for now and just wired the back speakers in series off the rear channel of the BT amp. Now it sounds closer to the volume as the fronts just no way as clean as the 7.1's.
 
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Originally Posted by SFDonovan
Since the D6902R are 4 ohms, I assume you mean the RZ4-2000D for $109? I can't use the RZ4-2000D for my front 2 ohm Kappa 62.11i's.

Do I need to be worried about mixing these two amps on the same system? My 2 ohm Kappa 62.11i's running from the PBR300X2, and the 4 ohm D6902R's powered by the RZ4-2000D?

Where could I mount the RZ4-2000D?
I run Polks in the front (2.7ohm) and Pioneers in the lids, all off the RZ amp.
RZ is 2 ohm stable. and I am totally happy (I do run an aftermarket HU - see all info in my signature). at least for now

that would result in 1 amp running in the fairing (RZ as a sample or SS).
keep in mind if you really care about FM stations, there is a risk you will lose some or "all" with SS 4.520 or the PA RZ. I still have most of the stations but usually only listen to my own music. there is a relatively new amp we are talking about here on the forum - Cerwin Vega B4. that one is also a class D but I believe the guys running a Cerwin did not lose FM... look at ebay for this amp - WAY cheaper than the usual online vendors (sonic, ...)

the PBR you can either put on the shelve or sell here. that will offset some of the "cost" - like Gann said less than 200 bucks for RZ / Pioneer combo - 1xx back for the PBR. ~100 bucks and a few beers or whatever you drink while putting the amp etc in....
 
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Originally Posted by SFDonovan
Since the D6902R are 4 ohms, I assume you mean the RZ4-2000D for $109? I can't use the RZ4-2000D for my front 2 ohm Kappa 62.11i's.

Do I need to be worried about mixing these two amps on the same system? My 2 ohm Kappa 62.11i's running from the PBR300X2, and the 4 ohm D6902R's powered by the RZ4-2000D?

Where could I mount the RZ4-2000D?

Sorry SF sometimes I get carried away with my acronyms assuming everyone here knows what I'm talking about. Yes the Power Acoustik RZ4.2000D. The RZ4 is 2 and 4 ohm compatible. Run the RZ4 from the fairing location on top of the radio. Reduce the gains a little on the infinity's and turn them up some on the Pioneers. No problem running two and 4 ohm speakers on this amp or any amp that's 2 or 4 ohm compatible for that matter. Run the infinity's on the front channel and the Pioneers on the back channel. No need for two amps on a four speaker system. Bottom line is you can definitely use the RZ4 for the infinity's. Trust me you will love it!
 

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The Pioneers have the LOWEST BASS !! Unbeatable at the price !!
 
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