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Old Dec 29, 2015 | 01:52 PM
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correct - HL output is your END amp signal. hope that clarifies it LOL
Yeah AAWAV I think we were saying the same thing..LOL. What I was confused about was what Mark said about HU being HL and being reduced to LL for the RCA's and that you could get HL from the RCA's. What I always thought was that the RCA's used the Preamp on the HU and by passed the HU internal amp. I don't know how you can get HL off the RCA's. When I think of HL I think of running jumpers off your speaker wires to the external amp!
 
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Old Dec 29, 2015 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Fireball Jack
I will wait for the guru's to chime in but I am willing to try one. I had a 1.0 farad cap that my son just sold when he switched systems in his car.
Like Haze I've heard mixed reviews on the capacitors but I have a friend who is running one and he loves it! His voltmeter was always on about 11.5 - 12 while going down the road with his system blasting and the bass notes hitting. Now he say's it stays on 14 going down the road no matter how loud he turns his system up. I've never experienced a loss of voltage going down the highway on my bike (yet) Mine stays right up there on 14 without the cap. Like everything else I think it's bike specific.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2015 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Moto Mike
Yeah AAWAV I think we were saying the same thing..LOL. What I was confused about was what Mark said about HU being HL and being reduced to LL for the RCA's and that you could get HL from the RCA's. What I always thought was that the RCA's used the Preamp on the HU and by passed the HU internal amp. I don't know how you can get HL off the RCA's. When I think of HL I think of running jumpers off your speaker wires to the external amp!
Mike, sorry as I see what I posted is quite confusing. What I've seen done, is not running HL from the RCA preout on the HU, but HL from the HU;s speaker wire into the LL input of an amp that does not have HL inputs on it. Essentially, you are bypassing the need for a LOC. You cut the RCA connector back a bit from the end of the cable. Then solder it onto HL wire so you have an input for the HL wire into the amp. You would need to check the allowable input voltage range on the amplifier to make sure it can handle it, but look at the JL M400/4 for instance. It supports up to 4V at the RCA inputs but has no HL input source for it like the T400X4AD that Haze used. But it can take the HL input V. So, I would just run the speaker level out straight to the amp with my HL modified to have RCA terminals on it instead of using a LOC.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2015 | 08:36 AM
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I'm thinking if this option is used with Line levelers, an adapter will be required to go from RCA-wire connection. I'm bored so as soon as I get my rear line leveler I'll give it a try.......Pending
 
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Old Dec 31, 2015 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by mark@lowlifebaggers.com
Mike, sorry as I see what I posted is quite confusing. What I've seen done, is not running HL from the RCA preout on the HU, but HL from the HU;s speaker wire into the LL input of an amp that does not have HL inputs on it. Essentially, you are bypassing the need for a LOC. You cut the RCA connector back a bit from the end of the cable. Then solder it onto HL wire so you have an input for the HL wire into the amp. You would need to check the allowable input voltage range on the amplifier to make sure it can handle it, but look at the JL M400/4 for instance. It supports up to 4V at the RCA inputs but has no HL input source for it like the T400X4AD that Haze used. But it can take the HL input V. So, I would just run the speaker level out straight to the amp with my HL modified to have RCA terminals on it instead of using a LOC.
This is all good stuff! Great read!!
 
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Old Dec 31, 2015 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by mark@lowlifebaggers.com
Mike, sorry as I see what I posted is quite confusing. What I've seen done, is not running HL from the RCA preout on the HU, but HL from the HU;s speaker wire into the LL input of an amp that does not have HL inputs on it. Essentially, you are bypassing the need for a LOC. You cut the RCA connector back a bit from the end of the cable. Then solder it onto HL wire so you have an input for the HL wire into the amp. You would need to check the allowable input voltage range on the amplifier to make sure it can handle it, but look at the JL M400/4 for instance. It supports up to 4V at the RCA inputs but has no HL input source for it like the T400X4AD that Haze used. But it can take the HL input V. So, I would just run the speaker level out straight to the amp with my HL modified to have RCA terminals on it instead of using a LOC.
Thanks for clearing that up Mark!
 
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Old Dec 31, 2015 | 02:28 PM
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Haze did your high level input have a black wire along with the 4 speaker wires?
Where did you connect it if you did?
 
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Old Dec 31, 2015 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Gooey2
I'm thinking if this option is used with Line levelers, an adapter will be required to go from RCA-wire connection. I'm bored so as soon as I get my rear line leveler I'll give it a try.......Pending
Gooey.... You have one of the 14+ bikes?
 
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Old Dec 31, 2015 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Ragz Ultra
Haze did your high level input have a black wire along with the 4 speaker wires?
Where did you connect it if you did?
I'm using a Kenwood 998. It was straight from the HU speaker wires.

Also tried with another amp last night and the signal was too strong and didn't sound as clean, RCA's sounded better. Gains were already kinda low with this amp with low level inputs.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2015 | 03:44 PM
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i have a digital loc to play with but i'm wondering where or if i need to connect it with the bt breakout harness
 
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