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Old Jul 4, 2016 | 05:53 PM
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I have received a lot of help on this forum for putting together my upgrades and I have placed orders for new quality speaker, power and ground wiring. I am using 16ga twisted pair speaker wires and 4ga power and ground wire with the correct connectors. I read somewhere on this forum a while back that twisting the power and ground wires together to make them twisted pair would help with cutting FM interference from the class d amp. What are your thoughts, is it worthwhile,have a downside or a total waste of time?
 
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I have received a lot of help on this forum for putting together my upgrades and I have placed orders for new quality speaker, power and ground wiring. I am using 16ga twisted pair speaker wires and 4ga power and ground wire with the correct connectors. I read somewhere on this forum a while back that twisting the power and ground wires together to make them twisted pair would help with cutting FM interference from the class d amp. What are your thoughts, is it worthwhile,have a downside or a total waste of time?
4 ga is some awful stiff wire. good 8 ga is plenty. will the 4 ga even fit in amp lugs?
 
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The instructions for the amp said to use 4ga so I would imagine it will.
" A 4 gauge or larger wire should be used for power and ground connections."
 

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That was me that used the twisted pair power & ground wires, I ran them that way all the way to the battery from the amp (BT4180)

It was the only thing that helped my FM reception.

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Originally Posted by Springerfan
The instructions for the amp said to use 4ga so I would imagine it will.
" A 4 gauge or larger wire should be used for power and ground connections."
a bike does not produce enough juice to warrant a 4awg wire.
 
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It's an Arc moto 600.4 which I thought was designed for motorcycles and I copied that directly from the instructions for the amp. I thought it was abit large also and I have used 8ga on other amps but I assumed that they knew what they were talking about when they wrote the manual. What do you use haze?
 
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Originally Posted by Springerfan
It's an Arc moto 600.4 which I thought was designed for motorcycles and I copied that directly from the instructions for the amp. I thought it was abit large also and I have used 8ga on other amps but I assumed that they knew what they were talking about when they wrote the manual. What do you use haze?
I think if u go down into the manual a bit in the "Installation" specific section, there is text that states 8 awg minimum in parens so at least u know that 8 will be acceptable. Pretty damn interesting to see this conflicting info but I would run with the 8 since it is stated as an acceptable minimum gauge.

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I think if u go down into the manual a bit in the "Installation" specific section, there is text that states 8 awg minimum in parens so at least u know that 8 will be acceptable. Pretty damn interesting to see this conflicting info but I would run with the 8 since it is stated as an acceptable minimum gauge.

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The manual in that section is still referring to automotive installation where wire length needs larger gauge due to the longer runs. The 5-6 feet ran on a bike is plenty sufficient to 50 amp draw range in 8g for power and ground. Also twisting will have zero benefit on FM reception. Placebo effect. I have the cheapest crappiest antenna for FM known to man and still pick up few stations running 2 amps and phase 7 headlamp. Run the power on the left side to battery and ground to the right. The arc is well emi shielded and you should have majority of your stations still.
 
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Originally Posted by Springerfan
The instructions for the amp said to use 4ga so I would imagine it will.
" A 4 gauge or larger wire should be used for power and ground connections."
which amp?
i used 8 ga pwr and grnd to battery, added an aditional ground from hu chassis(14 ga), twisted all 3 together, wrapped them in copper foil tape and maintained perfect fm teception on my aquatic av/cerwin vega B54 combo. was it all the prep work or just luck? no clue but i only wanted to do it once
 

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Originally Posted by slyedog
The manual in that section is still referring to automotive installation where wire length needs larger gauge due to the longer runs. The 5-6 feet ran on a bike is plenty sufficient to 50 amp draw range in 8g for power and ground. Also twisting will have zero benefit on FM reception. Placebo effect. I have the cheapest crappiest antenna for FM known to man and still pick up few stations running 2 amps and phase 7 headlamp. Run the power on the left side to battery and ground to the right. The arc is well emi shielded and you should have majority of your stations still.
What he said! +1
 
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