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Old 08-25-2016, 10:01 AM
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So the research I have found indicates that the ARC amp is 150 Watts in 4 Ohm and also in 2 Ohm.
Just seems odd to me.
Does anyone know how they are accomplishing this?
Is there some type of regulator on the voltage side when set for 2 ohm?
I see that they have switches for 2 ohm and for 4 ohm operation.

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Has anyone run a 2 ohm load with the amp switches set for 4 ohm?
What was the result?
Really wish someone had live data on this amp

This link shows the amp running 150 watts @2 ohm

http://www.pasmag.com/car-audio/test...plifier-review
 
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It's called regulated vs unregulated power supply. There are quite a few amps that work like this.
 
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When we run 8 speaks on that amp we switch to 2 ohm. When we run 6 or less we leave it at 4 ohm for best sound results if that helps you.
 
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It's called regulated vs unregulated power supply. There are quite a few amps that work like this.
Thanks
Just curious how the switch from 2 ohm to 4 ohm accomplishes the task
I imagine it has an effect on the rail voltage.

Its not really adjusting the power on the fly like HD600/4
any load from 1.5 to 4 Ohm is regulated to the output automatically.
And I think that is what you are referencing.
Shame those amps wont fit, Im afraid its to deep @8.29 inches




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When we run 8 speaks on that amp we switch to 2 ohm. When we run 6 or less we leave it at 4 ohm for best sound results if that helps you.
Yes
I will be running 8 and planned on using the amp in 2 ohm mode
But good to know that its best in 4ohm fora 6 speaker system
 
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When we run 8 speaks on that amp we switch to 2 ohm. When we run 6 or less we leave it at 4 ohm for best sound results if that helps you.
I'm curious as to why the 6 speak set up sounds better on 4ohm mode? I'm about to add lowers making mine a 6 speak setup off that amp.
 
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If I knew the scientific details as to why I would happily tell you but I can only speak to that ino the shop we get better sound results with 4 on 6 or less speakers. I honestly don't know why specifically. Sorry
 
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Originally Posted by Makdaddy
Thanks
Just curious how the switch from 2 ohm to 4 ohm accomplishes the task
I imagine it has an effect on the rail voltage.

Its not really adjusting the power on the fly like HD600/4
any load from 1.5 to 4 Ohm is regulated to the output automatically.
And I think that is what you are referencing.
Shame those amps wont fit, Im afraid its to deep @8.29 inches






Yes
I will be running 8 and planned on using the amp in 2 ohm mode
But good to know that its best in 4ohm fora 6 speaker system
Mak check out the review of the xDI version. There's a good technical explanation on how the "constant" power supply works. Seems as the switch essentially changes the power feedback loop, each providing power per load amount...2 or 4.

If I were to run 6 speakers I'd run the parallel channel at 2 and the other at 4.

http://www.pasmag.com/car-audio/test...plifier-review
 
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Originally Posted by haze324
Mak check out the review of the xDI version. There's a good technical explanation on how the "constant" power supply works. Seems as the switch essentially changes the power feedback loop, each providing power per load amount...2 or 4.

If I were to run 6 speakers I'd run the parallel channel at 2 and the other at 4.

http://www.pasmag.com/car-audio/test...plifier-review
Damn you haze lol. You made me go.back and look cause I swear that's what I typed before....I didn't though....stop catching my mistypes sir....your making me look bad lol
 
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^ not at all brother! Just trying to help.

Another thing to add about the Moto power supply is that it does rated power at 12 or 14v.
 
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Thanks Haze
these two amps are very similar

The xDI runs much like the JL HD400 all automatic so to say.
JL calls it R.I.P.S. – Regulated, Intelligent Power Supply

Im still confused on the switch for 2 ohm and 4 ohm on the 600.4
I suppose the rails could be split between channels, thus letting you run a 2 ohm load on the front channel and a 4 ohm load on the rear channel
 


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