Speaker Upgrade
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Originally Posted by c103p
With the radio installed on the SGS a reflash is required when installing aftermarket amps and i think speakers from what i have read it has something to do with the set up and adjusting the radio so that it will fucntion properly with the set up installed but still doing research on that. On the Wild Boar by Hog Tunes it states
- Note: May require a OEM or Techno Research dealer radio software “re-flash”
- Again this is just on a few amps i researched there was another one i looked at the had the same note.
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Let me clarify what I mean and I bring this up because I've seen it happening quite a bit lately by guys that are new to the sled audio scene. The dealer flash, regardless of what aftermarket system you're installing, will give you the flattest EQ setting from the HU. The problem that I've seen of late is guys not using the Line Levelers from Biketronics or some sort of DSP to finish flattening the HU signal. Surprised that we have heard more horror stories about Magic Smoke coming from the amps.
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They're the same only in the fact that they both flatten the signal from the HU. The DSP is a complete tuning tool where the Line Leveler is not. Starting out with the flattest HU signal possible will make either of these do their job even better.
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Thanks for all the knowledge and help. Yes i am new to the audio world for bikes been running stock since i purchased the bike. See and understanding more about this reflash crap from HD looks like its designed to keep you in the HD speaker amp family and make it harder for you to go outside but i see there are other streets out there you can take> It was suggested to me to install the Diamond 4V2 600watt amp 4 channel and install the Fosgate DSR1 Eq between. You also suggested the line leverler by BT. are those two basically the same and do the same thing? Also was told if install the DSR1 no reflash required just as with the BT line leveler
If you have a modest to advanced audio experience I would suggest a DSP but be for warned if you don't have an idea what you are doing with a DSP you can let the magic smoke out of all of you new goodies you just installed
very easy.
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So the next best thing is the 4 speakers no amp, gives you fader control. Basically the stock ultra flash.
For your basic installs I'd say the BT355 is the only way to go. A step up would be the JL Fix86, and for bigger more complex installs a DSP.
For what you're doing 1-2 BT355s would be needed (2 if you want fader).
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Okay so far this is what I plan on going with (SUBJECT TO CHANGE)
*Diamond Audio Amp 4V2 4 channel or Arc Audio 600.4
*6.5 Polk MM652 (2way) Front
*6x9 Polk MM692 (3way) Lids or 6x9 Polk DB692 (3way) REASEARCHING TO SEE WHICH ONE IS BETTER
**According to Crutchfield these speaker wont fit an HD SGS but im sure its just a minor issue with hole pattern****
* 2 BT Line Levelers (one for front and one for rear)
On another note: I did look into the WILD BOAR SET-UP by Hog Tunes. read some good things but also read some bad things. I have heard a full HT set-up on a friend of mines SG with the tweeter pod and it does sound awesome loud and very clear. But havent heard the Wild Boar Set up in person.
Please let me know if selections and set up are good and will sound great while pounding the roads as each one of you have similar parts installed and WAY MORE EXPERIENCE and KNOWLEDGE
Again thanks to everyone that has shared there knowledge and experience with me TRUST GLADLY APPRECIATED
*Diamond Audio Amp 4V2 4 channel or Arc Audio 600.4
*6.5 Polk MM652 (2way) Front
*6x9 Polk MM692 (3way) Lids or 6x9 Polk DB692 (3way) REASEARCHING TO SEE WHICH ONE IS BETTER
**According to Crutchfield these speaker wont fit an HD SGS but im sure its just a minor issue with hole pattern****
* 2 BT Line Levelers (one for front and one for rear)
On another note: I did look into the WILD BOAR SET-UP by Hog Tunes. read some good things but also read some bad things. I have heard a full HT set-up on a friend of mines SG with the tweeter pod and it does sound awesome loud and very clear. But havent heard the Wild Boar Set up in person.
Please let me know if selections and set up are good and will sound great while pounding the roads as each one of you have similar parts installed and WAY MORE EXPERIENCE and KNOWLEDGE
Again thanks to everyone that has shared there knowledge and experience with me TRUST GLADLY APPRECIATED
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The Diamond 4v2 will be under powered for what you want to do.
I might have missed it, are you factoring in the cost of the lids in the $1000-1500 budget or is it just for the amp and speakers and associated parts?
I might have missed it, are you factoring in the cost of the lids in the $1000-1500 budget or is it just for the amp and speakers and associated parts?
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No lids are a separate purchase with my extended bags. Lids will be Hog Tune Lids for the water drain set up they have (HOPING NO ISSUE WITH MOUNTING SPEAKERS HT SAYS "LIDS WILL ONLY FIT HT SPEAKERS). This is only for speakers, amp, and any associated parts for install.
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The other speakers will work but some may require slight modifications to the lids for mounting.Also magnet size on the speaker needs to be taken in account as they may have a possibility of interfering with the opening and closing of the lid.