Stereo upgrade from pbr300x4 to......???
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Stereo upgrade from pbr300x4 to......???
So, I've been reading as much as possible throughout this section, and to be blunt, I am not audio expert at all. I have to rely on the advice of others in this area. I am considering upgrading my sound system again. I went fairly cheap last time around, and sort of want to stay on a tight budget again. Will probably have to take this in stages.
My current setup included the stock head unit. I added a Rockford Fosgate pbr300x4 amp, and Kicker 6.5 CS67 speakers in the fairing and tour pack.
As I have my tour pack currently removed (probably rarely will use it) I want to add speakers to my lowers, and speakers in my lids as well.
So worst case scenario, upwards of 8 speakers if I were to reinstall my tourpack. So opinions needed on what I should be looking at? Should I just ditch the tourpack speakers? I have read some good things on the Cerwin Vega amps.....would the B54 work for me here? What speakers and at what ohm do I need in this situation? Also am hoping to upgrade the HU this season. Would really like the Aquatic unit, but the price is astronomical. May have to settle for a Kenwood style deck.
Please don't start at Focal amps, as that is out of my price range, lol. I am no audiophile, I just want good clean music.
My current setup included the stock head unit. I added a Rockford Fosgate pbr300x4 amp, and Kicker 6.5 CS67 speakers in the fairing and tour pack.
As I have my tour pack currently removed (probably rarely will use it) I want to add speakers to my lowers, and speakers in my lids as well.
So worst case scenario, upwards of 8 speakers if I were to reinstall my tourpack. So opinions needed on what I should be looking at? Should I just ditch the tourpack speakers? I have read some good things on the Cerwin Vega amps.....would the B54 work for me here? What speakers and at what ohm do I need in this situation? Also am hoping to upgrade the HU this season. Would really like the Aquatic unit, but the price is astronomical. May have to settle for a Kenwood style deck.
Please don't start at Focal amps, as that is out of my price range, lol. I am no audiophile, I just want good clean music.
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Tourer
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I am no expert but the B54 is not going to be enough to run 8 speakers. You already crossed off the Focal because of price. So if you want to run one amp to power all 8 speakers that's a tall order. I would think you could get a SS PN 4.1000d and run the speakers in parallel, but I also would think you would have to have the same speakers or ones with very close to the same specs to do this. Say fairing and lowers all 4 same speakers in parallel, but not sure how 6x9's in the lids paralleled with 6.5's in tour pack would work or sound. I would probably run 6 speakers and either tour pack or lids on the back. I'm sure someone with way more know how will give you some more advice (and probably better! lol).
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I certainly get what you are saying. That is why I was considering just not using the tour pack speakers at all. So if I ran fairing and lower speakers, lets say at 4 ohm in parallel for the front, could I get 2 ohm 6x9's for the lids and call it good? Is that even the right way of thinking here? Would the B54 handle the 6 speakers?
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Your still better off with the Soundstream PN 4.1000d for $150 and yes you could run some 4 ohm speakers in fairing and lowers in parallel some 4 ohm 6X9's in the lids like the Pioneer 6900 Pro, Polk MM692 or DD VO m6x9. I don't think anyone will suggest any 2 ohm 6x9 speakers.
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I am about as far from an expert as there is here - but I can tell you what I did:
I read here a bunch, and most goes over my head - these guys are serious and know what they are talking about. I ran across this thread:
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/audio...our-lunch.html posted by haze a long time ago.
I bought a Soundstream PN 4.1000d for around $150, and then bought 4 American Bass SQ6.5 speakers for just over $100 all in. I already had a Sony head unit on my bike that was running a PBR amp and was running speakers in my fairing lowers.
I realize there are way better options out there, but all more money. I installed this stuff and I am very happy so far. I am only running the front 4 speakers, but I really see no need to add any in the rear. The SS amp is big - I had to be creative making it work in my old roadglide, but it works, and I had plenty of cash left over in the end to do other stuff on the bike!
I read here a bunch, and most goes over my head - these guys are serious and know what they are talking about. I ran across this thread:
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/audio...our-lunch.html posted by haze a long time ago.
I bought a Soundstream PN 4.1000d for around $150, and then bought 4 American Bass SQ6.5 speakers for just over $100 all in. I already had a Sony head unit on my bike that was running a PBR amp and was running speakers in my fairing lowers.
I realize there are way better options out there, but all more money. I installed this stuff and I am very happy so far. I am only running the front 4 speakers, but I really see no need to add any in the rear. The SS amp is big - I had to be creative making it work in my old roadglide, but it works, and I had plenty of cash left over in the end to do other stuff on the bike!
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Out of curiosity, how did you wire the 4 front speakers? I assume in parallel, bringing them down to 2 ohms? And are they just running off the front channel?
If you were to run rear 6x9’s, would they then have to be 2 ohm as well?
P.S. I read the entire thread you linked. It was very informative, thanks!
If you were to run rear 6x9’s, would they then have to be 2 ohm as well?
P.S. I read the entire thread you linked. It was very informative, thanks!
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If you are using a 4 channel amp it is actually 2 two channel amps in 1 housing. As it has been mentioned the SS PN4 1000D is a very good budget amp. You would be able to use 4 4ohm 6.5 or 6x9 speakers in parallel as long as the specs are the same if not very similar pararelled to channels 1 and 2 creating a 2 ohm load on the amp. Then on channels 3 and 4 you could use 4 ohm speakers for the rear stage.
But keep in mind it is not advised to use a 6.5 and a 6x9 speaker in parallel on the same channels of the amp as they have nothing in common and require different settings on the amp.
But keep in mind it is not advised to use a 6.5 and a 6x9 speaker in parallel on the same channels of the amp as they have nothing in common and require different settings on the amp.
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Gotcha...so 4 6.5 speakers in the front in parallel, plus a single pair of 4 ohm 6x9’s for the rear lids should work ok then?
I wasn’t sure if you could have essentially 2 ohm in the front and 4 ohm in the rear.
I wasn’t sure if you could have essentially 2 ohm in the front and 4 ohm in the rear.
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Yes sir works like a charm as long as the 6.5s are all 4 ohm
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