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Old Aug 8, 2018 | 02:14 PM
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So I just got off the phone with a friend of mine and he offered to let me try a pair of his Hertz HCX165s before he tries to sell them or I buy them off of him pretty cheap. Will I be happy with them running in the fairing with a pair of Pioneer Pro in the lids. Versus let’s say Resilient sounds rs 65m PA mids with DD Audio VOB3 Horns or something similar to these horns. I plan on upgrading my current amp PBR300x4 to a TMX400.4AD or JL if I can find one cheap. My time is very limited when it comes to working on my bike as I work a ———— ton of hours during the week and I have a two-year-old that takes up 95% of my free time. So I don’t want to waste any time putting them in and removing them if I’m just gonna want something louder/better sooner or later. He was using them in his car and is changing over to a PA setup also. There only a month old.
Just today at lunch I had my first opportunity to listen to a PA set up on a bike in person. I called a local shop and they had a few customers bikes that I could listen to. I actually thought it sounded pretty good, definitely wasn’t as good as a good set of component speakers, but the loudness and clarity was impressive. I don’t have the money for a high-end component speaker setup right now so that’s why I was thinking of going PA route. Help me decide, let’s hear some opinions please on the Hertz HCX165 and Pioneer Pro combo.

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This is the nature of the beast, what sounds good to you this week will change and you will be on the hunt for a better/warmer/brighter/_______(insert choice word). Fairing/lower/6x9/horn/tweeter/midbass/PA/component______(insert choice speaker)
As good as my system sounds, I think it can become better. Again, all subjective.
 

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Originally Posted by screaminyz
So I just got off the phone with a friend of mine and he offered to let me try a pair of his Hertz HCX165s before he tries to sell them or I buy them off of him pretty cheap. Will I be happy with them running in the fairing with a pair of Pioneer Pro in the lids. Versus let’s say Resilient sounds rs 65m PA mids with DD Audio VOB3 Horns or something similar to these horns. I plan on upgrading my current amp PBR300x4 to a TMX400.4AD or JL if I can find one cheap. My time is very limited when it comes to working on my bike as I work a ———— ton of hours during the week and I have a two-year-old that takes up 95% of my free time. So I don’t want to waste any time putting them in and removing them if I’m just gonna want something louder/better sooner or later. He was using them in his car and is changing over to a PA setup also. There only a month old.
Just today at lunch I had my first opportunity to listen to a PA set up on a bike in person. I called a local shop and they had a few customers bikes that I could listen to. I actually thought it sounded pretty good, definitely wasn’t as good as a good set of component speakers, but the loudness and clarity was impressive. I don’t have the money for a high-end component speaker setup right now so that’s why I was thinking of going PA route. Help me decide, let’s hear some opinions please on the Hertz HCX165 and Pioneer Pro combo.

Thanks,
Dana
Pro audio is not something you start without going full boar. The mistake guys make is thinking they can do half a pro audio system and expect the system to sound balanced. Not gonna happen. With Pro audio you need Highs, Mids and Lows. If you’re not willing to invest the time and money in all three components and give up a little bag space. My advice is to leave the pro audio stuff alone. In your situation due to time constraints and budget, your best bet is to go with the Hertz and Pioneer coaxials. Done.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2018 | 06:47 PM
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Pro audio is not something you start without going full boar. The mistake guys make is thinking they can do half a pro audio system and expect the system to sound balanced. Not gonna happen. With Pro audio you need Highs, Mids and Lows. If you’re not willing to invest the time and money in all three components and give up a little bag space. My advice is to leave the pro audio stuff alone. In your situation due to time constraints and budget, your best bet is to go with the Hertz and Pioneer coaxials. Done.
Gann, that is a very clear and understandable summation. Thanks.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2018 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Gannicus
Pro audio is not something you start without going full boar. The mistake guys make is thinking they can do half a pro audio system and expect the system to sound balanced. Not gonna happen. With Pro audio you need Highs, Mids and Lows. If you’re not willing to invest the time and money in all three components and give up a little bag space. My advice is to leave the pro audio stuff alone. In your situation due to time constraints and budget, your best bet is to go with the Hertz and Pioneer coaxials. Done.
That right there is one damn fine post!!!! I take it u are that Snicker bar and got some rest!! Welcome back G!!! Lol!

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Gann,
I’m just wondering what would I be missing tho? What in the above PA setup I listed is not full bore? The cheaper Mid I chose? Pioneer Pro in the lids for some low end, maybe not a ton but some. A decent PA mid with good specs, seems to be on the warmer side and the DD vob3 horn for tweeters. This wouldn’t sound good? Maybe some day I might add a second 6x9 in the bag facing the wheel. Aren’t adding any type of subs to the bags pointless while riding?
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Originally Posted by screaminyz
Gann,
I’m just wondering what would I be missing tho? Pioneer Pro in the lids for some low end, maybe not a ton but some. A decent PA mid with good specs, seems to be on the warmer side and the DD vob3 horn for tweeters. This wouldn’t sound good? Maybe some day I might add a second 6x9 in the bag facing the wheel.
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Dana
What is going to be your amp floor plan?

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Hey Tailwind,
I’m thinking about buying a Rockford T400X4ad on eBay right now since there are some good deals on them right now. Or do I really need the marine version?
That would drive the mids in the fairing and pioneer in the lids, then either sell my pbr or use it for a bit until I can get some type of micro that will fit up front with the Rockford to power just the dd vob3 horns.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2018 | 10:09 PM
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The shop I went to today pretty much uses the Rockford TM400x4ad on all there customers bikes. The owner had three regular T400’s mounted in his front fairing with a custom inner running 8 inch PA speakers. They make there own custom fiberglass inner fairing with double din and 8 inch speaker holes for the 09-13 Street Glides. Very pricey tho something like $1200. But it was pretty nice how it was laid out. Looked more like the 14 and up inner but with 8 inch holes. They do a lot of custom fiberglass stuff, pretty cool seeing bags with sealed sub chambers so it didn’t affect the lid speakers.
 
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Gann,
I’m just wondering what would I be missing tho? What in the above PA setup I listed is not full bore? The cheaper Mid I chose? Pioneer Pro in the lids for some low end, maybe not a ton but some. A decent PA mid with good specs, seems to be on the warmer side and the DD vob3 horn for tweeters. This wouldn’t sound good? Maybe some day I might add a second 6x9 in the bag facing the wheel. Aren’t adding any type of subs to the bags pointless while riding?
Thanks,
Dana
The Pioneer Pro is a damn fine budget speaker. But that’s where it begins and ends. With Pro audio speakers in the fairing and B3 horns. When you crank up the volume you will not even hear the Pioneers sitting still. Let alone going down the road. The Pioneers really don’t have enough bass to balance out the mids and highs of the Pro audio speakers. Matter of fact the horn on the Pioneers is gonna add to the highs. Honestly I think that system will give you a headache going down the road.

You can try it out and see what you think but I’ve tested those speakers with several other speakers and amps and they were always the weak link in the system. Just my experience bro!

 
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