Having been accustomed for years to listening to tunes on my sled from my trusty earphones, I never crave for that low rumbling bass from any of my system. Been playing on and off (mostly off LOL) with car audio since 1993 I also never have the desire for 12" subwoofer, always favor 10" JL Audio W6 and at one time even 8 incher and was happy with the bass. I also grew up when surround system was still in its infancy in home audio and I did spent about 6 years screwing around with home audio so for me the very definition of high end audio is front stage only stereo with punny 5 or max 6 incher, obviously completely lack of low rumbling bass. I favor loud and tight midbass punch instead of low and loud rumbling bass.

​​​​​​I hope above explanation describes my taste in audio as I know everyone is different and what other people like is not necessarily good for me.

My current system:
- Stock HU
- Hertz H8 DSP
- Mosconi D2 100.4 bridged
- Focal ES165KX2 6.5" Mid Woofer full active
- Focal FD 4.350 bridged
- Focal K2 Power TKMX Tweeter full active

System runs really well, my MidWoofer cut at 125Hz to focus the energy on frequency that I can actually hear while riding with full face helmet. I am currently happy with the setup and was actually planning at add more amp for adding rear speaker with DD VO 6x9....

However, as I saw myself spending too much time on this forum I began to question my direction and I am still actually favoring fairing only system if I can get away with it for the simplicity and cost. I am thinking now instead of adding rears to my system which will cost upwards of $2000 for the speakers, lids and amp with the insane import tax in my country, why don't I just replace my front speakers with PA as I favor front stage only stereo rather than surround sound anyway.

I am with Tailwind here, I am not gonna cut my fairing to fit horns on a $70.000 2015 Road Glide Special (again insane import tax) and I actually have way more enough sound from my existing tweeters that can make my ear bleeds. What I think still can be improved on my system is the mid and the mid only, not the quality because I am happy with the way my mid woofer thump cut at 125Hz, I just need more volume from the mid, hence the reason for me considering PA speakers instead of fumbling around with bigger speakers to chase that elusive unicorn of badass bass which I don't favor anyway. I had my fairing metal brackets modified enough so that now I can put many amps in the fairing, so I am not against adding more amps.

What PA speakers will be reasonably "thumpy" and will be OK to be run as a fairing only speakers? I am considering either PRV, MMats or Beyma Pro6wnd the same as what Tailwind suggested and claimed the Beyma to be his unicorn on the other thread.

Thanks in advance folks!!

 

The best 2 speaker I have heard, was on inthewindmn bike I know he was running the DD AW 6.5 but cant remember if he had horns or tweeters. It was shocking for a fairing only set-up.

 

Was gonna use DD before I even bought a single thing for my sled audio, found out that it was discontinued and nobody have them on stock so I decided to go with Focal ES165KX2 which I believe is a damn good speaker, I first use the brand back in 1999 - 2001 can't recall exactly and it never disappointed me. I know expensive is not always better but it's a $1000 components set when first released (paid $850 locally) I don't think it can be that bad. Like I said before, damn happy with the sound after my tuner tuned my DSP, really from SQ point of view for sled audio I think I will be hard pressed to find anything better but I just need louder. I talked with my tuner today and he agreed with me that perhaps speaker change is in order for my purpose because he tried pushing 300 watts on mine and said while the speaker can handle it without breaking a sweat it start to distort when pushed beyond 300 watts, speaker rated at 240 watts max. He uses all Audio Control gears for measuring equipment, his RTA registered 105 db at 80% volume right where my head would normally be so it's LOUD, but perhaps I am just a bit deaf..... Wait, I actually AM a bit deaf, well not deaf but my wife definitely hears better.

 

Yes, Definitely not saying the focal are bad and they do take power and sound good. But the more power you send them the higher they need crossed. where do you have the tweeter mounted? in the Grills?

Also a sensitivity rating of 92.5 db so it does take some power to get loud. quality wise look at the Hertz SV165's they get rather loud and will take the power all day. They have a sensitivity rate of 97 db

 

LOL, my apology if I sound defensive but it wasn't my intention, I was just trying to justify why I chose the Focal and even if it later proven to be unsuitable for sled audio I will easily admit it and willing to ditch it despite my previous good experience with the brand. All good dude 👍

Yesp, you are spot on on that account, it's crossed at 125Hz now, tweeter mounted on the stock grill in the exact same spot where they mount the tweeter on CVO RG

Very interesting suggestion on the Hertz, SV165 is the 6.5" PA speaker from Hertz right? Do you think they will be good for my need and the sound I described above? Compared to other brand such as Beyma, PRV or MMATS? I have excellent access to get PRV because I have a customer from Brazil that come every month but I heard PRV sounds too hollow you wouldn't want to run it without other bass heavy speaker which will not fit my current objective?

And thanks a million for your valuable suggestions... 👍

 

Nothing wrong with PRV as I have them in my fairing. I am only sending them 75 watts from a JL600/6 and yes they are plenty loud.
I just installed the SV165 in a friend street glide and they are really loud and clear. pushing them with a set of VO-b3 horns wired in parallel off a bridged Diamond 4v2. 300 watts each.

My other buddy had a little DB meter and his was like 1.3 DB louder than mine for what it is worth. But again I was sending 300 watts each.

 

 

​​​​​​Based on my description of what I am after, would you say that I will be happy with Hertz SV165 and Focal tweeters fairing only setup? I will be pushing the SV with 300 watts 4 ohm.

 

Yes, we have GZ distributor here and they are surprisingly cheap here considering the tax we are paying. About $500 for the GZ Micro four/one amp. No idea on the speaker range though.

 

Checked on that, we do have that model here and price is ok at $300 apiece. But the frequency range starts from 150Hz on that bad boy, the Hertz SV165 is much lower than that starting at 100Hz. I am happy with the bass I have right now cut at 125Hz, but I don't think I will be happy cut at 150Hz.