Fairing/ lower fairing speaker combinations?
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Fairing/ lower fairing speaker combinations?
currently on my bike (16 rgs)
arc audio mpak 12 kit which contains
arc moto 602
arc 600.4 4 channel amp
my question is I feel that that motos by themselves Use to much power on low bass that it really doesnt shine in the mids and highs, would adding lower fairing speakers with better mids and high help me get a better all around sound at higher highway speeds? What speakers would you recommend for lowers?
My last bike was 14 sgs and I had biketronics 7.1 kit Titan 2 channel and 7.1 speakers with line levelers these were loud and clear but lacked the fullness the motos give but yet I still heard them perfectly fine at even 80 mph. The motos pretty much get drowned by the wind at that speed.
also I know the infotainment system can hinder a system with its non adjustable settings besides a flash so I will probably ditch it this winter and run a Sony xav5000 IF it will help with better sound .
any info, reviews, experiences would be a appreciated. Ill admit Im an audio noob but I for sure want a better sound than what Im getting now
arc audio mpak 12 kit which contains
arc moto 602
arc 600.4 4 channel amp
my question is I feel that that motos by themselves Use to much power on low bass that it really doesnt shine in the mids and highs, would adding lower fairing speakers with better mids and high help me get a better all around sound at higher highway speeds? What speakers would you recommend for lowers?
My last bike was 14 sgs and I had biketronics 7.1 kit Titan 2 channel and 7.1 speakers with line levelers these were loud and clear but lacked the fullness the motos give but yet I still heard them perfectly fine at even 80 mph. The motos pretty much get drowned by the wind at that speed.
also I know the infotainment system can hinder a system with its non adjustable settings besides a flash so I will probably ditch it this winter and run a Sony xav5000 IF it will help with better sound .
any info, reviews, experiences would be a appreciated. Ill admit Im an audio noob but I for sure want a better sound than what Im getting now
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currently on my bike (16 rgs)
arc audio mpak 12 kit which contains
arc moto 602
arc 600.4 4 channel amp
my question is I feel that that motos by themselves Use to much power on low bass that it really doesnt shine in the mids and highs, would adding lower fairing speakers with better mids and high help me get a better all around sound at higher highway speeds? What speakers would you recommend for lowers?
My last bike was 14 sgs and I had biketronics 7.1 kit Titan 2 channel and 7.1 speakers with line levelers these were loud and clear but lacked the fullness the motos give but yet I still heard them perfectly fine at even 80 mph. The motos pretty much get drowned by the wind at that speed.
also I know the infotainment system can hinder a system with its non adjustable settings besides a flash so I will probably ditch it this winter and run a Sony xav5000 IF it will help with better sound .
any info, reviews, experiences would be a appreciated. Ill admit Im an audio noob but I for sure want a better sound than what Im getting now
arc audio mpak 12 kit which contains
arc moto 602
arc 600.4 4 channel amp
my question is I feel that that motos by themselves Use to much power on low bass that it really doesnt shine in the mids and highs, would adding lower fairing speakers with better mids and high help me get a better all around sound at higher highway speeds? What speakers would you recommend for lowers?
My last bike was 14 sgs and I had biketronics 7.1 kit Titan 2 channel and 7.1 speakers with line levelers these were loud and clear but lacked the fullness the motos give but yet I still heard them perfectly fine at even 80 mph. The motos pretty much get drowned by the wind at that speed.
also I know the infotainment system can hinder a system with its non adjustable settings besides a flash so I will probably ditch it this winter and run a Sony xav5000 IF it will help with better sound .
any info, reviews, experiences would be a appreciated. Ill admit Im an audio noob but I for sure want a better sound than what Im getting now
At 80-90 MPH you need Pro Audio speakers and Horns to hear your music effectively. Some folks will disagree but that's okay. I've pretty much had every decent speaker out there in my bike at one time or another and thousands of dollars later . . . .That's the conclusion I came to.
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Garage Bagger Stereo is having a sale on the marine treated Mmats 6.5s this week. I put a set in my lowers and was pleased with the sound at speed. I know horns will give better highs but I'm getting along OK on the coaxials in the fairing (WDX6 Motos). I'm just not into pulling gauges and hacking stuff up so to speak.
Also as Gann mentioned the lids will add some good fill to your sound. I am running lids with tour pak speakers and it does help fill in the missing spots so to speak. To start off though maybe try some PA speakers in your lowers, that will add the mid range warmth you are missing now and might get you by for a while until you learn which way you really want to go.
Also as Gann mentioned the lids will add some good fill to your sound. I am running lids with tour pak speakers and it does help fill in the missing spots so to speak. To start off though maybe try some PA speakers in your lowers, that will add the mid range warmth you are missing now and might get you by for a while until you learn which way you really want to go.
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Op, u mentioned that the 602s are using way too much power on "low bass." What do you have the amp crossover set at? 6.5 speakers really are not "low bass" speakers thus make sure u crossover is set correctly for the realistic sound u desire on a sled. Form that point u will have a better idea of what u r truly wanting more of.
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I think T may have given you a way to get some more life out of those speakers. I forgot I had a similar situation with my AD CX621s. They didn't sound all that great out on the road until I bumped the crossover up a bit, they they cleaned right up and are loud and clear for as fast as I want to go. Definitely worth a look checking on that crossover point.
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Also to add to what Tailwind mentioned about the crossover setting those speakers are power hungry. How did you set the gains By ear or meter?
For a speaker to install in the lowers to complament the fairing look at some speakers with at least 93db or higher sensitivity.
For a speaker to install in the lowers to complament the fairing look at some speakers with at least 93db or higher sensitivity.
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I honestly set it up the way the instructions told me to. Im sure the settings they give are more on the safe side and I really didnt want to blow a speaker out so soon. I havent used a volt meter to fine fine tune yet but I just might when I get time. Also my remarks regarding the 602 as having a lot of base is based on previous speakers biketronics Titans 7.1 they were great at mids and highs on the freeway.
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Also to add to what Tailwind mentioned about the crossover setting those speakers are power hungry. How did you set the gains By ear or meter?
For a speaker to install in the lowers to complament the fairing look at some speakers with at least 93db or higher sensitivity.
For a speaker to install in the lowers to complament the fairing look at some speakers with at least 93db or higher sensitivity.
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OP. Are you using a line leveler or dsp with your setup? Tuning for that with the stock head unit really requires one or the other.
I'll say, I like my DB Motos in my lowers. They aren't thumpy speakers but they are loud, clear and carry to 90mph or more. They are a 103db speaker and LAF. However, I use a dsp and this gives you the ability to tame the brightness of the speaker. If you have lows covered in the fairing, these IMHO would compliment your fairing.
I'll say, I like my DB Motos in my lowers. They aren't thumpy speakers but they are loud, clear and carry to 90mph or more. They are a 103db speaker and LAF. However, I use a dsp and this gives you the ability to tame the brightness of the speaker. If you have lows covered in the fairing, these IMHO would compliment your fairing.
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No Im not using a bt line leveler or dsp thats why I bought the arc kit because it said I didnt need it. its either I buy a dsp or just ditch the infotainment system and get a headunit with less restrictions on fine tuning it itll cost the same as a dsp if I sell my infotainment