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Old Dec 28, 2018 | 03:50 PM
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Thanks Mike, but do you seriously think the $215.99 Hertz SV 165.1 designed for automobile SPL contests basically just to play loud will equal the SQ of my $600.00 component set? I would feel really bad if they did. So no I never tried replacing my $600 set of Hertz with a $200 set and expecting the sound quality to improve, lol




Your $600 components wasn't designed for bike audio either. Just as the majority of the speakers most use aren't either. The plain and simple fact is that a component setup no matter who makes it or how much it costs, is not an effective speaker in the lowers. Especially when you consider cost versus return. Unless you do most of your riding in a parking lot or around the neighborhood doing less than 30 mph, the simple fact is, a properly tuned PA speaker will outplay your $600 components in the lowers at highway speeds any day of the week.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2018 | 04:14 PM
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Your $600 components wasn't designed for bike audio either. Just as the majority of the speakers most use aren't either. The plain and simple fact is that a component setup no matter who makes it or how much it costs, is not an effective speaker in the lowers. Especially when you consider cost versus return. Unless you do most of your riding in a parking lot or around the neighborhood doing less than 30 mph, the simple fact is, a properly tuned PA (public address) speaker will outplay your $600 components in the lowers at highway speeds any day of the week.
i respectfully disagree. 1/4 volume at 80 mph and my 1000 watt 8 speaker system sounds phenomenal. PA speakers are crude and loud and cheap for competition not for a high quality sound system. My ice cream man in the 50’s had a PA system on his 53 Ford panel truck, lol
 

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Old Dec 28, 2018 | 04:27 PM
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hello i got 14 limited im thinking rf and hertz can i see ur rear pods id like to run 2 rf amps and lowers hertz but i need to get a kit
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Old Dec 28, 2018 | 04:37 PM
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i respectfully disagree. 1/4 volume at 80 mph and my 1000 watt 8 speaker system sounds phenomenal. PA speakers are crude and loud and cheap for competition not for a high quality sound system. My ice cream man in the 50’s had a PA system on his 53 Ford panel truck, lol
And I wasn't born yesterday. I've been at this a while as well as several others here and I know what it takes to build a good sounding system.
You're running 2 Hertz component sets, a Hertz coaxial in your tourpack and I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you're running a Hertz 6x9 coaxial in your lids and you're pushing it all with 2 RF400/4's. Brother, you have no idea what "Phenomenal" sounds like. I bet the guy that did your install said that's what it would be didn't he.
 
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And I wasn't born yesterday. I've been at this a while as well as several others here and I know what it takes to build a good sounding system.
You're running 2 Hertz component sets, a Hertz coaxial in your tourpack and I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you're running a Hertz 6x9 coaxial in your lids and you're pushing it all with 2 RF400/4's. Brother, you have no idea what "Phenomenal" sounds like. I bet the guy that did your install said that's what it would be didn't he.

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Old Dec 28, 2018 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DLennartz


Only when your sitting still without your motor running in your garage. When wind is rushing past your ears at 80 mph and your pipes are screaming at 3000 rpm an addition set of tweeters aimed in the right direction ads tremendously to the volume and SQ of your front sound stage. I’ve tried it both ways. There is no comparison.
this is what removes most of the SQ from what you have described of your build. I'm not knocking you and if you are happy with your system, that is all that really counts. But you might rethink some of the words you put out, cause like SBates said, there are a bunch of us that have been at this for a while and we know the limitations of the components that you describe for your build.
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Old Dec 28, 2018 | 04:47 PM
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Yup have read that too but nowhere in that topic does it tell you that a component set is optimal for the lowers. Especially with very little wattage going to it. Not my first rodeo. If you like what you have then that's all that matters. You'll be the only person here that will give suggestions for components in the lowers. Guarantee you that.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2018 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DLennartz
Thanks Mike, but do you seriously think the $215.99 Hertz SV 165.1 designed for automobile SPL contests basically just to play loud will equal the SQ of my $600.00 component set? I would feel really bad if they did. So no I never tried replacing my $600 set of Hertz with a $200 set and expecting the sound quality to improve, lol




I'm confident Moto Mike is being very serious. And I would second his assessment. I would even double down and suggest that there are $50 PA 6.5s that will blow the doors off ur $600 speakers in that location both parked and riding at 80 mph.

It's far more than the price tag that takes a sled audio system to the next level. And I'm a fan of Hertz.

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Component speaker systems have their place and I will have to agree with bates they dont belong in the lowers as component speakers using a passive network take alot more power to be efficient/ effective.

A properly tuned high efficiency speaker will be leaps ahead of a component in the lower fairing with sound quality and volume.

If you have time in your June schedule head to the Midwest Meet and Greet or if you cant make that if you are in the northern part of Illinois hit me up and I will meet you for a beverage or 2 and let you have a listen to my system and I can probably get a few other HDF members in the area to join us.

Just a few suggestions and my 2 pennies
 
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Originally Posted by Tailwind
I'm confident Moto Mike is being very serious. And I would second his assessment. I would even double down and suggest that there are $50 PA 6.5s that will blow the doors off ur $600 speakers in that location both parked and riding at 80 mph.

It's far more than the price tag that takes a sled audio system to the next level. And I'm a fan of Hertz.

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Cool, please name the $50 6 1/2” speakers that will out program my $600. Components, I’m building a proto type ported test enclosure with the same coffee can shaped chamber lowers have to test different 6 1/2’s for a bike show coming up this spring.
 

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