Tuning mid base woofers
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Tuning mid base woofers
Now that Ive taken my tweeters off the channel I have my front fairing speakers on, Im wondering if I should change how they are tuned, currently Im running them on HP at about 60/70 hz, would I be better off having them on LP and cut all the highs? At say 5/6k? They are Hertz 1650.3 off a focal sport amp. Ill probably listen to the both ways I just wonder what the general thinking on this is?
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Now that Ive taken my tweeters off the channel I have my front fairing speakers on, Im wondering if I should change how they are tuned, currently Im running them on HP at about 60/70 hz, would I be better off having them on LP and cut all the highs? At say 5/6k? They are Hertz 1650.3 off a focal sport amp. Ill probably listen to the both ways I just wonder what the general thinking on this is?
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https://www.hertzaudiovideo.com/car-...gend-ml1650_3/
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they are rated down to 40 , great speakers, Ive ran them there for 2 years now with zero issues.
https://www.hertzaudiovideo.com/car-...gend-ml1650_3/
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man you shouldnt be looking for lows like that from a 6.5
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Im not, I have bags for that, but if the speaker can handle it and Are designed for it why not? I guess no one is actually going to try and answer my question lol
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ok so to answer your actual question I cant imagine a scenario that would have me using lpf on a mid range speaker. If your tuning is just done at the amp ( no dsp) then Id do as said above and raise the hpf to 80+ depending on power given. If you are using a dsp then Thats a different deal
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ok so to answer your actual question I can’t imagine a scenario that would have me using lpf on a mid range speaker. If your tuning is just done at the amp ( no dsp) then I’d do as said above and raise the hpf to 80+ depending on power given. If you are using a dsp then That’s a different deal
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ok(so basically leave them as I currently have them tuned)so then putting all the high frequencies to that speaker is not as bad as putting the lows to it, I guess that was my question, yes just using the amp so I can only cut off the lows or the highs, not both like I would imagine a DSP can do. Thank you!
I would run HP, start at 80ish. Yes they are rated down to 40, but that will cause them to distort at higher volume. What I've found for bike audio is that I am running with volume up pretty high most of the time, so I need to adjust the HP up so they don't distort.
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Mikes300, Grab the Focal Sport owners manual and on page 2 it will provide instructions on how u can use 3/4 on that amp to bandpass those woofers.
I agree with these fine gentlemen that below 80hp is prob not a good place to be, especially as u start to get more aggressive with ur setup. If u keep adding watts/volts/gains to them 1650s to keep with the rest of ur setup ur gonna need to eliminate them lower frequencies or they will self destruct. As long as ur not throwing big watts at them u should be fine in the 70 range but keep a damn keen ear out for distortion in the higher volume range as they will go poof pretty fast.
Regarding the band pass, start with 80 HP and run the up to about 6000 to 7000 LP but then ur gonna want to HP ur horns up there around 5000 or 6000 as to not have too much overlap in those freqs. It's gonna be tuff to dial in that overlap with those ***** but give it a shot w your ears and see if u can identify the impact as u play w the woof LP and horn HP. Don't be afraid to try the extremes to see what actually happens when u LP the woofers at 8000, 7000, 6000, 5000, etc. And HP the horns at 3000, 4000, 5000, 6000, etc.
Good luck & have fun learning how these crossover settings really can impact ur audio.
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I agree with these fine gentlemen that below 80hp is prob not a good place to be, especially as u start to get more aggressive with ur setup. If u keep adding watts/volts/gains to them 1650s to keep with the rest of ur setup ur gonna need to eliminate them lower frequencies or they will self destruct. As long as ur not throwing big watts at them u should be fine in the 70 range but keep a damn keen ear out for distortion in the higher volume range as they will go poof pretty fast.
Regarding the band pass, start with 80 HP and run the up to about 6000 to 7000 LP but then ur gonna want to HP ur horns up there around 5000 or 6000 as to not have too much overlap in those freqs. It's gonna be tuff to dial in that overlap with those ***** but give it a shot w your ears and see if u can identify the impact as u play w the woof LP and horn HP. Don't be afraid to try the extremes to see what actually happens when u LP the woofers at 8000, 7000, 6000, 5000, etc. And HP the horns at 3000, 4000, 5000, 6000, etc.
Good luck & have fun learning how these crossover settings really can impact ur audio.
T
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Mikes300, Grab the Focal Sport owners manual and on page 2 it will provide instructions on how u can use 3/4 on that amp to bandpass those woofers.
I agree with these fine gentlemen that below 80hp is prob not a good place to be, especially as u start to get more aggressive with ur setup. If u keep adding watts/volts/gains to them 1650s to keep with the rest of ur setup ur gonna need to eliminate them lower frequencies or they will self destruct. As long as ur not throwing big watts at them u should be fine in the 70 range but keep a damn keen ear out for distortion in the higher volume range as they will go poof pretty fast.
Regarding the band pass, start with 80 HP and run the up to about 6000 to 7000 LP but then ur gonna want to HP ur horns up there around 5000 or 6000 as to not have too much overlap in those freqs. It's gonna be tuff to dial in that overlap with those ***** but give it a shot w your ears and see if u can identify the impact as u play w the woof LP and horn HP. Don't be afraid to try the extremes to see what actually happens when u LP the woofers at 8000, 7000, 6000, 5000, etc. And HP the horns at 3000, 4000, 5000, 6000, etc.
Good luck & have fun learning how these crossover settings really can impact ur audio.
T
I agree with these fine gentlemen that below 80hp is prob not a good place to be, especially as u start to get more aggressive with ur setup. If u keep adding watts/volts/gains to them 1650s to keep with the rest of ur setup ur gonna need to eliminate them lower frequencies or they will self destruct. As long as ur not throwing big watts at them u should be fine in the 70 range but keep a damn keen ear out for distortion in the higher volume range as they will go poof pretty fast.
Regarding the band pass, start with 80 HP and run the up to about 6000 to 7000 LP but then ur gonna want to HP ur horns up there around 5000 or 6000 as to not have too much overlap in those freqs. It's gonna be tuff to dial in that overlap with those ***** but give it a shot w your ears and see if u can identify the impact as u play w the woof LP and horn HP. Don't be afraid to try the extremes to see what actually happens when u LP the woofers at 8000, 7000, 6000, 5000, etc. And HP the horns at 3000, 4000, 5000, 6000, etc.
Good luck & have fun learning how these crossover settings really can impact ur audio.
T