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Old Feb 9, 2020 | 10:49 PM
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I’ve been looking at Garage Bagger Stereo for the last two days. I messaged them earlier and they are working up some options for me. They are only about 90 minutes from my house. That would be about as easy as it gets.
I think Dorian knows more about high end audio but garage bagger deals in the equipment that you already have and might be able to build on that. Just depends on your goals.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2020 | 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by InthewindMN
I think Dorian knows more about high end audio but garage bagger deals in the equipment that you already have and might be able to build on that. Just depends on your goals.
You may be right InTheWindMN. I probably need to take a breath and decide once and for all what I’m after. I set out on this rabbit hole not unhappy with my current setup. Blissfully unaware of my ignorance and how underpowered my middle of the road performance components were, but being told another amp would make it better, hence the goal to “optimize”.

Having learned just enough to be dangerous now, my ego may be taking over, as it sometimes does, and I’m thinking about how “competition level systems must be better and surely they’d be louder and clearer on the highway too”. But I don’t want to compete in bagger audio competitions, and other than showing whatever I have to the guys I ride with, I won’t be showing off in parking lots either. So maybe I already have the answer to how to “optimize” my current setup, it’s probably as simple as replacing the Micro84u with an SD800.4, adding two SD250.2s and separating everything out to run on the 8 individual channels and tuning to this setup. That’s probably the smart play, then I’ll ride over to Dorian’s shop one day in the spring,and maybe I’ll go to some bagger audio competitions this year, and I’ll hear the difference between my “optimized” components and a competition grade high end system. If I get a bug to have a competition grade system after that, then I’ll work with Dorian to build something.

I appreciate all of you educating me and pointing me toward some local resources that will continue to make me less dumb on motorcycle audio.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2020 | 06:23 AM
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Go see Dorian instead of Garage Bagger. Backyard Baggers is even closer to you I think they compete some, but I'm not sure at what level.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2020 | 07:24 AM
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Go see Dorian instead of Garage Bagger. Backyard Baggers is even closer to you I think they compete some, but I'm not sure at what level.
Yes Joey competes...alot....one reason I didn't get him to do anything for me. lol After calling and texting for weeks, and not much response, I got tired of trying. Not bashing anyone....but as a potential customer, I just think responding to customers in a timely manner is more important that the next audio competition award.
 

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Originally Posted by teedoff65
Yes Joey competes...alot....one reason I didn't get him to do anything for me. lol After calling and texting for weeks, and not much response, I got tired of trying. Not bashing anyone....but as a potential customer, I just think responding to customers in a timely manner is more important that the next audio competition award.
I’m good friends with Joey and he has 30 bikes at a time there and most are big builds. Even me who he and I talk regularly will sometimes take a day or two to get a text back, dude stays slammed (for good reason).

consider this and I posted about it on FB recently....the shops that do get back to customers quickly and focus on retail 9 times out of 10 have NEVER produced a competition winning bike. This post is a great example, call AHB and they’ll help you immediately!!! I get more messages for tuning from guys with unhappy systems that most times I can’t help them.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2020 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by haze324
I’m good friends with Joey and he has 30 bikes at a time there and most are big builds. Even me who he and I talk regularly will sometimes take a day or two to get a text back, dude stays slammed (for good reason).

consider this and I posted about it on FB recently....the shops that do get back to customers quickly and focus on retail 9 times out of 10 have NEVER produced a competition winning bike. This post is a great example, call AHB and they’ll help you immediately!!! I get more messages for tuning from guys with unhappy systems that most times I can’t help them.
I almost linked Brad Ball's video where he talks about answering a bunch of questions for a potential client and they never buy anything. Then later sees that client with all the stuff he recommended purchased elsewhere. It would be tough as a shop owner/builder to manage things like that.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2020 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by haze324
I’m good friends with Joey and he has 30 bikes at a time there and most are big builds. Even me who he and I talk regularly will sometimes take a day or two to get a text back, dude stays slammed (for good reason).

consider this and I posted about it on FB recently....the shops that do get back to customers quickly and focus on retail 9 times out of 10 have NEVER produced a competition winning bike. This post is a great example, call AHB and they’ll help you immediately!!! I get more messages for tuning from guys with unhappy systems that most times I can’t help them.
Makes complete sense... everyone has to prioritize there time. If you’re a big system builder, you definitely would focus on those looking to buy the most high end components AND pay for installation and tuning. And if you are among the best at these builds/installs then you will definitely be backed up for months and need to be scheduled well in advance.

I don’t know if that precludes retailers from knowing what they are doing though. I’m coming to see the bagger audio world in four tiers:

1) Stock - Junk but some riders only care about hearing the bike and wind.
2) Package systems - J&M and BikeTronics provide packages that sound WAY better than stock and you don’t have to know or think about anything.
3) AHB and perhaps Garage Bagger Stereo - Retailers that (hopefully) know enough to be able to help sell component pieces or do installs for the guys that want a level better than Package Systems, but not looking for competition level. This is clearly the riskiest arena. Buyer doesn’t know better and at the mercy of a retailer that might not be the most knowledgeable.
4) Competition Builders - Know their ****, but may not have time for you if you aren’t looking to do something amazing.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2020 | 08:44 AM
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I’m good friends with Joey and he has 30 bikes at a time there and most are big builds. Even me who he and I talk regularly will sometimes take a day or two to get a text back, dude stays slammed (for good reason).

consider this and I posted about it on FB recently....the shops that do get back to customers quickly and focus on retail 9 times out of 10 have NEVER produced a competition winning bike. This post is a great example, call AHB and they’ll help you immediately!!! I get more messages for tuning from guys with unhappy systems that most times I can’t help them.
Well I completely understand, but there has to be a balance. I'm not knocking the guy, but when he tells me he's a one man operation, and then I see him ALL weekend at several bike competitions for several weekends in a row, I realize he's never going to have time for a customer like me who just wants a 1500 dollar system. lol I'm not that kind of customer who will bug him with endless questions and fishing for advice then take the advice somewhere else. In fact, I asked him for a quote on installing the RF kit and the stinger amp, explained the mess I had going on from the previous installer, and once he gave me a quote I was trying to set up the install time.

So I wound up going somewhere else.

Edit: Didn't mean to get off topic. If you can get him or Dorian either one, they're the best around here for bike audio.
 

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Both Dorian and Joey would be great, but if they are tied up check out Daniel Hearn at Bad Attitude Audio(Winston Salem) or Dan at DK Electronics(Clayton), both also compete regularly and do well.
 
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I had emailed Da Funk Shop Friday. Henry responded within an hour and told me to call him. Unfortunately, I got pulled into a couple of meetings and got tied up all afternoon and couldn’t call. He pinged me Sunday afternoon while I was at the painter’s so I missed him. Called him back today... what a genuinely cool dude!

He took the time to review what I have and gave me a few options he thought would be a good road map for optimizing what I already have, and what I might want to consider as next steps. I told him right up-front that I wanted to be respectful of his time, since I want to do the installation myself. He didn’t care about not doing the big install, he truly just wanted to help point me in the right direction. To the point that his first suggestion is to just add another Micro8 amp in the fairing to separate the speakers to individual channels, which definitely won’t make him a ton of $.

You can tell that he loves designing motorcycle audio systems and gave me a TON of great information and advice over the phone. I may need to ride it down to Miami this Spring now just to buy him a beer and tell him how much I appreciated him taking the time with me.

Gotta love the biker community!
 
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