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Old Nov 3, 2020 | 08:30 AM
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Here are the photos again of the current look. If anyone has suggestions on the best dsp wiring method, I'm happy to take the tips.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2020 | 08:36 AM
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That arc has constant issue with the plug.. If you have the space (it will fit in the clutch cubby) I would go with the DD DSI2.

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I think it's interesting that the DD DSI2 has both PC input and apparently bluetooth. Does the bluetooth work for tuning out of the box or do you need to buy and adapter? I see it has a bluetooth port on it in the pictures.

My PSM has done fine and I bought it used. I just don't have room enough for anything bigger. I imagine if the cables going into it were not secured well the vibration could crack the solder joints on the circuit boards.

One thing I wondered about the DSI2 though, how many EQ sliders does it have? That's one thing about the Arc, I wish it had more sliders instead of just adjusting the frequency points for the ones that are there. I imagine the end result could be the same, but I would like ten bands or so as opposed to the seven of the PSM. Also Juice do you know if the DD unit has adjustable voltage on the outputs, or is it just set to 5v? Maybe one day if I get a big boy bike I can try one out.
 

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I think it's interesting that the DD DSI2 has both PC input and apparently bluetooth. Does the bluetooth work for tuning out of the box or do you need to buy and adapter? I see it has a bluetooth port on it in the pictures.

My PSM has done fine and I bought it used. I just don't have room enough for anything bigger. I imagine if the cables going into it were not secured well the vibration could crack the solder joints on the circuit boards.

One thing I wondered about the DSI2 though, how many EQ sliders does it have? That's one thing about the Arc, I wish it had more sliders instead of just adjusting the frequency points for the ones that are there. I imagine the end result could be the same, but I would like ten bands or so as opposed to the seven of the PSM. Also Juice do you know if the DD unit has adjustable voltage on the outputs, or is it just set to 5v? Maybe one day if I get a big boy bike I can try one out.
From my understanding, BT support is an optional dongle purchase just like the Dayton. I'm still wondering, and perhaps someone has confirmed this, if a cheap BT usb dongle from walmart cant be used. I think Dayton wanted like 30 bucks for theirs. I have several lying around from BT keyboards and mice, that I could test with.

I know the DSI2 has a price without BT and one with and its $50 bucks difference.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2020 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoyt 1911A1
I think it's interesting that the DD DSI2 has both PC input and apparently bluetooth. Does the bluetooth work for tuning out of the box or do you need to buy and adapter? I see it has a bluetooth port on it in the pictures.

My PSM has done fine and I bought it used. I just don't have room enough for anything bigger. I imagine if the cables going into it were not secured well the vibration could crack the solder joints on the circuit boards.

One thing I wondered about the DSI2 though, how many EQ sliders does it have? That's one thing about the Arc, I wish it had more sliders instead of just adjusting the frequency points for the ones that are there. I imagine the end result could be the same, but I would like ten bands or so as opposed to the seven of the PSM. Also Juice do you know if the DD unit has adjustable voltage on the outputs, or is it just set to 5v? Maybe one day if I get a big boy bike I can try one out.
There is a separate BT dongle.
The DSI2 has a 10 band EQ. 10 band in a band pass actually give you a good bit of control.
The acr gives you 7 EQ sliders. Again in band pass you change all the frequencies to what you want. Just type what Fz you want to change.



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Thanks Juice. I'm an old PC guy by trade so I appreciate being able to bring what I am working on up on a couple of large monitors. I think the Arc was just simple enough to where I could hit the ground running with it. I got a decent basic tune that tamed the Motos in the fairing early on. After learning to adjust the Q values slightly I was able to clean them up even further. Also being able to boost the voltage to my rear amp kept it from hammering my charging system af high volumes.

All in all I'm pleased with the PSM. Never know when something cooler will come down the line though.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2020 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoyt 1911A1
Thanks Juice. I'm an old PC guy by trade so I appreciate being able to bring what I am working on up on a couple of large monitors. I think the Arc was just simple enough to where I could hit the ground running with it. I got a decent basic tune that tamed the Motos in the fairing early on. After learning to adjust the Q values slightly I was able to clean them up even further. Also being able to boost the voltage to my rear amp kept it from hammering my charging system af high volumes.

All in all I'm pleased with the PSM. Never know when something cooler will come down the line though.
There is no voltage setting. You can however control the volume for each channel independently. Then you have a separate mast volume. The "Q" setting is just how many other frequencies are being adjusted too. It will make it a sharp spike to pin point/target a specific Fz or if you widen it it will affect souring Fz's.

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Old Nov 3, 2020 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by GunslingersNation1
Both the Dayton and DD should fit in the cubby. I have two concerns with that, although I may just be gunshy at this point. 1. The power wires are on that side of the tray, as you can see from the photos above. Surely its not close enough to cause interfere with quality rca's. 2. Lucky 7 used that cubby to push some of the extra cabling in to get it out of the way. Again, surely not enough to cause any issues if I pull it out. The Dayton is considerably cheaper, and still has Bluetooth. Realistically, I'm just going to be using it to set bandpass filters on each set of speakers, so I may lose any benefit of the higher end DD dsp.
I tried the Dayton in the cubby. Stock amp tray. No go. The DD DSI-2 that Juice refers to is what I went with in the end. Hook up to laptop, change tune, etc. Unplug and go. Pretty simple once you learn a little of it.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2020 | 11:01 AM
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Everyone has different needs when it comes to a dsp but for me I like the features of the twk88. It’s big but worth it if you can fit it in.
 
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I was recently informed that the DSI-2 is discontinued!?!
 
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Everyone has different needs when it comes to a dsp but for me I like the features of the twk88. It’s big but worth it if you can fit it in.
Dang! Almost 500 bucks too!
 
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