How much "Amp" do I need?
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I would order up the GZ speakers and give them a try on the Stinger, since you already have it. As others mentioned, you will be light on power for your GZ's so you won't be getting the full benefit of the upgrade. You might gain a bit lower mid-range frequencies, but I don't know how much extra volume you would gain if any.
Getting those GZs more power will help you reach the potential of your system.
You could upgrade to a bigger SD amp to run the whole system, but just bridging that Stinger and dialing it back to run the GZ's would work as well. Add in a second amp like the SD 400.4 Evox, or maybe even bridge a NVX Vadm 4 to run your tour pack speakers if you find a good deal on one of those.
Any chance you end up adding speakers to lowers or lids in the future? If so, maybe plan on an amp that will work good with any future upgrades.
Just a heads up, I think you will need a spacer ring, or an adapter like the Vtwin speaker adapters VTTP65 to get those Mmats to fit into those pods. That's what I used on my 05 Ultra.
Getting those GZs more power will help you reach the potential of your system.
You could upgrade to a bigger SD amp to run the whole system, but just bridging that Stinger and dialing it back to run the GZ's would work as well. Add in a second amp like the SD 400.4 Evox, or maybe even bridge a NVX Vadm 4 to run your tour pack speakers if you find a good deal on one of those.
Any chance you end up adding speakers to lowers or lids in the future? If so, maybe plan on an amp that will work good with any future upgrades.
Just a heads up, I think you will need a spacer ring, or an adapter like the Vtwin speaker adapters VTTP65 to get those Mmats to fit into those pods. That's what I used on my 05 Ultra.
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I would order up the GZ speakers and give them a try on the Stinger, since you already have it. As others mentioned, you will be light on power for your GZ's so you won't be getting the full benefit of the upgrade. You might gain a bit lower mid-range frequencies, but I don't know how much extra volume you would gain if any.
Getting those GZs more power will help you reach the potential of your system.
You could upgrade to a bigger SD amp to run the whole system, but just bridging that Stinger and dialing it back to run the GZ's would work as well. Add in a second amp like the SD 400.4 Evox, or maybe even bridge a NVX Vadm 4 to run your tour pack speakers if you find a good deal on one of those.
Any chance you end up adding speakers to lowers or lids in the future? If so, maybe plan on an amp that will work good with any future upgrades.
Just a heads up, I think you will need a spacer ring, or an adapter like the Vtwin speaker adapters VTTP65 to get those Mmats to fit into those pods. That's what I used on my 05 Ultra.
Getting those GZs more power will help you reach the potential of your system.
You could upgrade to a bigger SD amp to run the whole system, but just bridging that Stinger and dialing it back to run the GZ's would work as well. Add in a second amp like the SD 400.4 Evox, or maybe even bridge a NVX Vadm 4 to run your tour pack speakers if you find a good deal on one of those.
Any chance you end up adding speakers to lowers or lids in the future? If so, maybe plan on an amp that will work good with any future upgrades.
Just a heads up, I think you will need a spacer ring, or an adapter like the Vtwin speaker adapters VTTP65 to get those Mmats to fit into those pods. That's what I used on my 05 Ultra.
I'd prefer a single amp to run all 4 speakers and don't plan on more speakers in either the lowers or lids. As mentioned earlier, it's winter here and I have a couple of months to keep my eyes open for maybe a good used amp in the classified here and deal with it.
Thanks Bluesman. I'll try the Stinger first as I have it. Not too concerned about more volume or it being louder...but if I could gain a bit lower mid-range frequencies as you say from the GZ's, that would be great! I still haven't totally "warmed" up to the Mmats in the fairing and find them a bit bright so they may do well in the TP pods. And yes, VTwin adapters are on order to fit those Mmats into the pods.
I'd prefer a single amp to run all 4 speakers and don't plan on more speakers in either the lowers or lids. As mentioned earlier, it's winter here and I have a couple of months to keep my eyes open for maybe a good used amp in the classified here and deal with it.
I'd prefer a single amp to run all 4 speakers and don't plan on more speakers in either the lowers or lids. As mentioned earlier, it's winter here and I have a couple of months to keep my eyes open for maybe a good used amp in the classified here and deal with it.
I'm running 145 watts to my Mmats and x-over set that I can feel the mid-range on my chest on some songs.
The Mmats work good in the TP pods as well.
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I haven't tried the GZ coax, but just based on Specs, I would expect a little lower frequencies than the Mmats, but even the Mmats should have been fairly warm with a bit of mid-range thump. I've never considered the Mmats bright, but I have always had a HU with a built in EQ. When guys mention their speaker sounds bright, I always question the x-over setting on the amp. Because the x-over dial is variable, too many people guess at the frequency setting, rather than trying to set it by ear. Obviously, too much bottom end will push a speaker beyond it's limits, but if x-over is set too high, things will sound bright.
I'm running 145 watts to my Mmats and x-over set that I can feel the mid-range on my chest on some songs.
The Mmats work good in the TP pods as well.
I'm running 145 watts to my Mmats and x-over set that I can feel the mid-range on my chest on some songs.
The Mmats work good in the TP pods as well.
But the reviews here from guys that have tried the GZs sound good.
Agreed, If someone thinks the mmats are too bright, they have the crossovers set wrong. While they're not going to hit lower freq like other speakers, they do have some warmth. I really liked them in my last bike.
But the reviews here from guys that have tried the GZs sound good.
But the reviews here from guys that have tried the GZs sound good.
I've been running my Mmats for two years, and they have always sounded good. I found them fairly full sounding and warm sounding on the Stinger. When I switched to the TX48, the Mmats were definitely not as warm. A little harsh, but not to the point of being bright, but after some fine tuning they are not bad. Definately louder with the TX48. That being said, it is time for me to start checking out other speakers. The GZ coax is on that list.
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When guys mention their speaker sounds bright, I always question the x-over setting on the amp. Because the x-over dial is variable, too many people guess at the frequency setting, rather than trying to set it by ear. Obviously, too much bottom end will push a speaker beyond it's limits, but if x-over is set too high, things will sound bright.
I was previously running Hertz HCX 165's in the fairing...they were warm. So yes, compared to them, I do find the Mmats brighter. Don't get me wrong, they sound good and not obnoxious bright...just not as warm as I was expecting.
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It's easy to miss the sweet spot on the x-over settings if a guy is just guessing based on the numbers around the dial. Just not real accurate.
I've been running my Mmats for two years, and they have always sounded good. I found them fairly full sounding and warm sounding on the Stinger. When I switched to the TX48, the Mmats were definitely not as warm. A little harsh, but not to the point of being bright, but after some fine tuning they are not bad. Definately louder with the TX48. That being said, it is time for me to start checking out other speakers. The GZ coax is on that list.
I've been running my Mmats for two years, and they have always sounded good. I found them fairly full sounding and warm sounding on the Stinger. When I switched to the TX48, the Mmats were definitely not as warm. A little harsh, but not to the point of being bright, but after some fine tuning they are not bad. Definately louder with the TX48. That being said, it is time for me to start checking out other speakers. The GZ coax is on that list.
