Help with setting Crossover
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What an afternoon. Decided to check the ARC amp with a meter. Unplug the speaker wires from the amp, put the probes in, turn on the bike, turn on and set the meter to AC and play the 1kHz. Nothing on the meter, turn up the gain and still nothing. OK, maybe the batteries are bad even though the screen lights up. Put new batteries in, still nothing but zero's on the screen. So maybe the meter is bad, off to Home Depot to buy a new one.
Well guess what, still nothing but zero's on the screen. I hooked the speakers back up and no problem there. Hooked the Oscilloscope up and no problem there.
Here's the meter that I picked up from HD and set to AC. And just to make sure that I had good contact, I hooked speaker wires up to the amp and used alligator clips to hold the wire on the probes.
Well guess what, still nothing but zero's on the screen. I hooked the speakers back up and no problem there. Hooked the Oscilloscope up and no problem there.
Here's the meter that I picked up from HD and set to AC. And just to make sure that I had good contact, I hooked speaker wires up to the amp and used alligator clips to hold the wire on the probes.
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That was why I used the alligator clips to connect the bare wires against the probe.
I either head out later tonight or tomorrow and try your way. Dam nights are dropping into the 60's here in Tennessee already.
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I either head out later tonight or tomorrow and try your way. Dam nights are dropping into the 60's here in Tennessee already.
Thanks
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That was it. Now I need to start look at better speakers, or mount a couple of speaker pods on my front crash bar. It's never ending.
I set the voltage to 31 and the amp crossovers around 125. I set the HDHU.14+ crossover to 125 with a 24 slope.
That was it. Now I need to start look at better speakers, or mount a couple of speaker pods on my front crash bar. It's never ending.
I set the voltage to 31 and the amp crossovers around 125. I set the HDHU.14+ crossover to 125 with a 24 slope.
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My home speakers are b-amped Bowers & Wilkins, I can hear the bass drum as well as the cymbals and everything in between. I don't so much want to change out the Cicada's 65's, I want more highs, while still keeping the bass. Is that possible with two fairing speakers?
The Cicada 65's can be bi-amped. After I ride and listen for a bit, I may bi-amp them. I figure that this will give me more control with the mid bass and tweeter. Channels 1-2 going to the tweeters and 3-4 going to the mid bass.
I've wondered about that too, since the HDHU.14+ has it's own crossover. But the ARC has a more adjustable crossover, where the HU only has set points, like 80, 100, 120. The slope can be adjusted from 12 to 24.
I can't find it right now, but in one of the papers from Cicada, shows what they suggest for the crossover setting. The CH65's crossover setting is listed as 125 @24 slope.
Here's one thing that confuses me. When someone says to lower the crossover, is that going from 100 to 120 or 120 to 100 as an example?
The Cicada 65's can be bi-amped. After I ride and listen for a bit, I may bi-amp them. I figure that this will give me more control with the mid bass and tweeter. Channels 1-2 going to the tweeters and 3-4 going to the mid bass.
I've wondered about that too, since the HDHU.14+ has it's own crossover. But the ARC has a more adjustable crossover, where the HU only has set points, like 80, 100, 120. The slope can be adjusted from 12 to 24.
I can't find it right now, but in one of the papers from Cicada, shows what they suggest for the crossover setting. The CH65's crossover setting is listed as 125 @24 slope.
Here's one thing that confuses me. When someone says to lower the crossover, is that going from 100 to 120 or 120 to 100 as an example?
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My home speakers are b-amped Bowers & Wilkins, I can hear the bass drum as well as the cymbals and everything in between. I don't so much want to change out the Cicada's 65's, I want more highs, while still keeping the bass. Is that possible with two fairing speakers?
The Cicada 65's can be bi-amped. After I ride and listen for a bit, I may bi-amp them. I figure that this will give me more control with the mid bass and tweeter. Channels 1-2 going to the tweeters and 3-4 going to the mid bass.
I've wondered about that too, since the HDHU.14+ has it's own crossover. But the ARC has a more adjustable crossover, where the HU only has set points, like 80, 100, 120. The slope can be adjusted from 12 to 24.
I can't find it right now, but in one of the papers from Cicada, shows what they suggest for the crossover setting. The CH65's crossover setting is listed as 125 @24 slope.
Here's one thing that confuses me. When someone says to lower the crossover, is that going from 100 to 120 or 120 to 100 as an example?
The Cicada 65's can be bi-amped. After I ride and listen for a bit, I may bi-amp them. I figure that this will give me more control with the mid bass and tweeter. Channels 1-2 going to the tweeters and 3-4 going to the mid bass.
I've wondered about that too, since the HDHU.14+ has it's own crossover. But the ARC has a more adjustable crossover, where the HU only has set points, like 80, 100, 120. The slope can be adjusted from 12 to 24.
I can't find it right now, but in one of the papers from Cicada, shows what they suggest for the crossover setting. The CH65's crossover setting is listed as 125 @24 slope.
Here's one thing that confuses me. When someone says to lower the crossover, is that going from 100 to 120 or 120 to 100 as an example?
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My home speakers are b-amped Bowers & Wilkins, I can hear the bass drum as well as the cymbals and everything in between. I don't so much want to change out the Cicada's 65's, I want more highs, while still keeping the bass. Is that possible with two fairing speakers?
The Cicada 65's can be bi-amped. After I ride and listen for a bit, I may bi-amp them. I figure that this will give me more control with the mid bass and tweeter. Channels 1-2 going to the tweeters and 3-4 going to the mid bass.
I've wondered about that too, since the HDHU.14+ has it's own crossover. But the ARC has a more adjustable crossover, where the HU only has set points, like 80, 100, 120. The slope can be adjusted from 12 to 24.
I can't find it right now, but in one of the papers from Cicada, shows what they suggest for the crossover setting. The CH65's crossover setting is listed as 125 @24 slope.
Here's one thing that confuses me. When someone says to lower the crossover, is that going from 100 to 120 or 120 to 100 as an example?
The Cicada 65's can be bi-amped. After I ride and listen for a bit, I may bi-amp them. I figure that this will give me more control with the mid bass and tweeter. Channels 1-2 going to the tweeters and 3-4 going to the mid bass.
I've wondered about that too, since the HDHU.14+ has it's own crossover. But the ARC has a more adjustable crossover, where the HU only has set points, like 80, 100, 120. The slope can be adjusted from 12 to 24.
I can't find it right now, but in one of the papers from Cicada, shows what they suggest for the crossover setting. The CH65's crossover setting is listed as 125 @24 slope.
Here's one thing that confuses me. When someone says to lower the crossover, is that going from 100 to 120 or 120 to 100 as an example?
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I was told that with a two speaker set up, you don't need a DSP. But I was thinking, sine the Cicada's can be bi-amped, wouldn't that technically be 4 speakers?
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I had the HU's crossover turned off and the sound wasn't quite right. So I turned the crossover to 125 with a 24db curve. (I didn't want to have to take off the RGS fairing again). Then used an equalizer for my phone, set it up for 13 bands and a preset of bass & treble, I then copied those settings to the HU's digital equalizer. So far I'm pretty happy.
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