Specifications - importance/meaning and testing!
IF you had every speaker imaginable w/ no change to any of the devices pushing them (Source / HU, Amp, cables, etc.) - you *could* compare them side by side by listening to each.
I don't know about you, but that's not feasible for me. (would be fun!)
Thiele and Small came up with standardized tests to help measure specific areas of loudspeaker performance. Allowing you to compare them without needing to buy each and test them yourself.
It doesn't change the fact that some speakers will just sound better to you! That's the part we can't quantify fully w/ just the T/S specs.
However - if you are specifically looking for a speaker that has better low end reproduction - seeing the actual frequency response of two models will clearly ID which plays lower. Then seeing which has better Sensitivity will let you know which will play louder with the same amp powering them!
ETC. Informed decision and removing some of the marketing "spin" that most manufacturers spend good $ on.
I'm a long time audio enthusiast. Not an audiophile (compared to most), and not an audio engineer. I've installed stereos in cars and now bikes on occasion, but don't do it for a living.
I'd like to first list off the important parameters (most from wikipedia and elsewhere - worth reading if you have the time and interest). I'll note the ones that I personally find the most helpful, and which may be especially relevant to us for motorcycle audio.
Another fantastic resource is to read the book by . Tons of good info and fun projects if you want to look at building speaker enclosures and testing them!
I am going to do this a couple ways and appreciate your feedback and suggestions.
First off, here are the T/S Parameters:
Qts - A unitless measurement, characterizing the combined electric and mechanical damping of the driver. In electronics, Q is the inverse of the damping ratio. The value of Qts is proportional to the energy stored, divided by the energy dissipated, and is defined at resonance (Fs). Most drivers have Qts values between 0.2 and 0.5, but there are valid (if unusual) reasons to have a value outside this range.
Qms - A unitless measurement, characterizing the mechanical damping of the driver, that is, the losses in the suspension (surround and spider.) It varies roughly between 0.5 and 10, with a typical value around 3. High Qms indicates lower mechanical losses, and low Qms indicates higher losses. The main effect of Qms is on the impedance of the driver, with high Qms drivers displaying a higher impedance peak. One predictor for low Qms is a metallic voice coil former. These act as eddy-current brakes and increase damping, reducing Qms. They must be designed with an electrical break in the cylinder (so no conducting loop). Some speaker manufacturers have placed shorted turns at the top and bottom of the voice coil to prevent it leaving the gap, but the sharp noise created by this device when the driver is overdriven is alarming and was perceived as a problem by owners. High Qms drivers are often built with nonconductive formers, made from paper, or various plastics.
Qes - A unitless measurement, describing the electrical damping of the loudspeaker. As the coil of wire moves through the magnetic field, it generates a current which opposes the motion of the coil. This so-called "Back-EMF" (proportional to Bl * velocity) decreases the total current through the coil near the resonance frequency, reducing cone movement and increasing impedance. In most drivers, Qes is the dominant factor in the voice coil damping. Qes depends on amplifier output impedance. The formula above assumes zero output impedance. When an amplifier with nonzero output impedance is used, its output impedance should be added to Re for calculations involving Qes.
Bl - Measured in tesla-metres (Tˇm). Technically this is B×l or B×l sin(θ) (a vector cross product), but the standard geometry of a circular coil in an annular voice coil gap gives sin(θ)=1. B×l is also known as the 'force factor' because the force on the coil imposed by the magnet is B×l multiplied by the current through the coil. The higher the B×l value, the larger the force generated by a given current flowing through the voice coil. B×l has a very strong effect on Qes.
Vas - Measured in litres (L) or cubic metres, is a measure of the 'stiffness' of the suspension with the driver mounted in free air. It represents the volume of air that has the same stiffness as the driver's suspension when acted on by a piston of the same area (Sd) as the cone. Larger values mean lower stiffness, and generally require larger enclosures. Vas varies with the square of the diameter. A typical factory tolerance for Vas spec is ą20–30%.
Mms - Measured in grams (g) or kilograms (kg), this is the mass of the cone, coil and other moving parts of a driver, including the acoustic load imposed by the air in contact with the driver cone. Mmd is the cone/coil mass without the acoustic load, and the two should not be confused. Some simulation software calculates Mms when Mmd is entered. Mmd can be very closely controlled by the manufacturer.
Rms - Units are not usually given for this parameter, but it is in mechanical 'ohms'. Rms is a measurement of the losses, or damping, in a driver's suspension and moving system. It is the main factor in determining Qms. Rms is influenced by suspension topology, materials, and by the voice coil former (bobbin) material.
Cms - Measured in metres per newton (m/N). Describes the compliance (ie, the inverse of stiffness) of the suspension. The more compliant a suspension system is, the lower its stiffness, so the higher the Vas will be. Cms is proportional to Vas and thus has the same tolerance ranges.
Re - Measured in ohms (Ω), this is the DC resistance (DCR) of the voice coil, best measured with the cone blocked, or prevented from moving or vibrating because otherwise the pickup of ambient sounds can cause the measurement to be unreliable. Re should not be confused with the rated driver impedance, Re can be tightly controlled by the manufacturer, while rated impedance values are often approximate at best.. American EIA standard RS-299A specifies that Re (or DCR) should be at least 80% of the rated driver impedance, so an 8-ohm rated driver should have a DC resistance of at least 6.4 ohms, and a 4-ohm unit should measure 3.2 ohms minimum. This standard is voluntary, and many 8 ohm drivers have resistances of ~5.5 ohms, and proportionally lower for lower rated impedances.
Le - Measured in millihenries (mH), this is the inductance of the voice coil. The coil is a lossy inductor, in part due to losses in the pole piece, so the apparent inductance changes with frequency. Large Le values limit the high frequency output of the driver and cause response changes near cutoff. Simple modeling software often neglects Le, and so does not include its consequences. Inductance varies with excursion because the voice coil moves relative to the polepiece, which acts as a sliding inductor core, increasing inductance on the inward stroke and decreasing it on the outward stroke in typical overhung magnet arrangements. This inductance modulation is an important source of nonlinearity (distortion) in loudspeakers. Including a copper cap on the pole piece or a copper shorting ring on it, can reduce the increase in impedance seen at higher frequencies in typical drivers, and also reduce the nonlinearity due to inductance modulation.
Sd - Measured in square metres (m˛). The effective projected area of the cone or diaphragm. It is difficult to measure and depends largely on the shape and properties of the surround. Generally accepted as the cone body diameter plus one third to one half the width of the annulus (surround). Drivers with wide roll surrounds can have significantly less Sd than conventional types with the same frame diameter.
- Tough to measure, but part of why "bigger is almost always better!" - surface area pushing air!
- Sd and Xmax - more xmax w/ good Sd = "hit" especially mids and lows (given appropriate power).
η0 - Reference EfficiencySpecified in percent (%). Comparing drivers by their calculated reference efficiency is often more useful than using 'sensitivity' since manufacturer sensitivity figures are too often optimistic.
Sensitivity - The sound pressure, in dB, produced by a speaker in response to a specified stimulus. Usually this is specified at an input of 1 watt or 2.83 volts (2.83 volts = 1 watt into an 8 ohm load) at a distance of one metre.
- (Especially useful/important to me. Higher sensitivity equals less power needed for a given "loudness" or volume in dB via SPL Meter. an 92dB speaker at a set volume with 100w would = an identical setup w/ an 86dB speaker would need 400w!)
I have 2 test setups. Dayton Audio DATS being one, and a calibrated mic w/ ARTA. I hope to compare the two and see which is the most consistent. I may eventually grow out of ARTA (free which is nice) to TrueRTA (1/24 octave version).
Having a consistent test setup will not be 100% (not willing to spend that kind of $$$), but it will let me compare specific drivers EQUALLY. Models vary and some will be better than others. Your speaker may be off from the one i test, but within a range it should be able to show how the two compare overall. That's the goal.
I'm going to start off w/ a set of Pioneer 6.75" components i have to eventually install in a project truck. Nice speakers w/ decent documented specs. (TS-C720PRS - great driver for the $)
I'm also testing a 12" sub from Stereo Integrity - their BM MK3. Well documented to see how close to spec i am.
I plan on finally testing both the BT 7.1's and BT/HAT 6x9's - both are fully documented from HAT w/ all of the above. I may need to take some of my bike apart to do these last ones!
And if i get a chance (my setup is mobile which is nice), i'll try testing my brother's Polk MM651's!
This is going to be fun!
Anything anyone wants to see in particular? If you are in the Seattle area I'd be happy to hook up and test what you have to show others for comparison!! (Hertz, Focal, etc?!)
Long first post, but look forward to some of the spectrum and specs from the first two i did last night! Likely this weekend.
Thx!
Rob
Last edited by sl33py; Aug 23, 2013 at 07:19 PM.
Frequency Response:
Some of the specs:
Note - to get the final T/S parameters (Specifically Vas) tested i need to pull the speaker and do the added mass test. It involves adding a known weight to the cone of the driver which measures the Vas and Mms.
The important part was the frequency response, and efficiency. Unfortunately until i measure Vas I won't see the rated efficiency of the speakers to compare.
Round 1 i guess and will pull them next time to do the added mass test.
Hope this is interesting to someone besides myself... hehehe.
Rob
So disregard 2kHz and up - as it's not really the 7.1 mid's response any longer.





