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Old Sep 3, 2014 | 07:31 AM
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So, I ordered another TN4.900D after finding out that the bridged 4 ohm output is 450 watts times 2. Running speakers in series (based on discussions with members of this forum) will send 225 watts to each TS-D pioneer that I have, which should FINALLY give me the extra punch that I have been missing every since my Arc audio amp went out. Well, got a call from woofers etc., which was the only place online that had it in stock and they're now all sold out of the 900.4D as well. Apparently, this amp has exploded in popularity recently and is not available anywhere that I can find for a reasonable price (Amazon has it but they're selling it for $359).

So, long story short....I was given an opportunity to get the "replacement" version of this amp. Apparently, the parent company of Soundstream owns Precision Power as well and sells a version of the TN4.900D called the P900.4. It has the exact same specs as the 4.900D (except for a 145 watt 4 ohm rating compared to 150 with the 4.900D) but in a slightly smaller package. Did some research on it and they were right. Everything is identical on both ends of the amp. Here's a website I found that tested this amp when it came out and I am impressed with the 4 ohm bridged results. When the amp arrives, of course i'll come back and do a review on it but so far everything looks promising. If those RMS test numbers are true for a 4 ohm bridged load, then those pioneers may finally be to the point to where they sound like they're trying to jump out the saddlebags. Anyways, here's the website that tested it.....
http://www.pasmag.com/car-audio/test...004-amplifier-

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Old Sep 3, 2014 | 08:04 AM
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So, I ordered another TN4.900D after finding out that the bridged 4 ohm output is 450 watts times 2. Running speakers in series (based on discussions with members of this forum) will send 225 watts to each TS-D pioneer that I have, which should FINALLY give me the extra punch that I have been missing every since my Arc audio amp went out. Well, got a call from woofers etc., which was the only place online that had it in stock and they're now all sold out of the 900.4D as well. Apparently, this amp has exploded in popularity recently and is not available anywhere that I can find for a reasonable price (Amazon has it but they're selling it for $359).

So, long story short....I was given an opportunity to get the "replacement" version of this amp. Apparently, the parent company of Soundstream owns Precision Power as well and sells a version of the TN4.900D called the P900.4. It has the exact same specs as the 4.900D (except for a 145 watt 4 ohm rating compared to 150 with the 4.900D) but in a slightly smaller package. Did some research on it and they were right. Everything is identical on both ends of the amp. Here's a website I found that tested this amp when it came out and I am impressed with the 4 ohm bridged results. When the amp arrives, of course i'll come back and do a review on it but so far everything looks promising. If those RMS test numbers are true for a 4 ohm bridged load, then those pioneers may finally be to the point to where they sound like they're trying to jump out the saddlebags. Anyways, here's the website that tested it.....
http://www.pasmag.com/car-audio/test...004-amplifier-

Your thoughts????
I have a friend with the PPI 900.4 and yeah those Pioneers will be jumping out of the saddlebags! He's had it for about a year. On our way back from Tulsa in August his left rear channel went to hell in a hand basket. Left rear pod speaker sounded like it was blown (Kicker CS67) got home replaced the speaker with a brand new set and the new speaker sounded the same as the old speaker. Turns out the rear left channel was blown on the amp. It's out of warranty but he loves the amp so much he bought another one. His Pioneers and Kickers are shaking the ground once again! All and all I think it's a good amp. A channel can be blown on any amp at any time. You just never know with electronics. If you read the JL reviews on amazon. Guys have had the same problem with the JL 600/4.
 

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I have a friend with the PPI 900.4 and yeah those Pioneers will be jumping out of the saddlebags! He's had it for about a year. On our way back from Tulsa in August his left rear channel went to hell in a hand basket. Left rear pod speaker sounded like it was blown (Kicker CS67) got home replaced the speaker with a brand new set. and the new speaker sounded the same as the old speaker. Turns out the rear left channel was blown on the amp. It's out of warranty be he loves the amp so much he bought another one. His Pioneers and Kickers are shaking the ground once again! All and all I think it's a good amp. A channel can be blown on any amp at any time. You just never know with electronics. If you read the JL reviews on amazon. Guys have had the same problem with the JL 600/4.
I had the same exact problem with my arc amp. Lost the front right channel on it...after only a year. Im hoping what you say is true about his amp. Hell, with 225 watts each those pioneers better be jumping out the damn bags. Dont get much more powerful than that...without spending a ton of coin.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2014 | 08:21 AM
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Man that PPI 900.4 looks like a beast and is in my price range. Probably will be leaning this way to power my 6x9s for my phase two of audio.

Good find!!
 
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Man that PPI 900.4 looks like a beast and is in my price range. Probably will be leaning this way to power my 6x9s for my phase two of audio.

Good find!!
It does look like a beast. I think it is too. The tn4.900 i have now that sends 225 watts to the kappas makes those things SCREAM. I have lights inside of the speakers and when the cone moves, you can see the light jumping back and forth with it. Well, the kappas have moved more than I have ever seen when I hooked up the 4.900 to em. So hopefully those 4 ohm ratings are correct. If they are, thats gonna be about 238 watts to each pioneer!
 
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I had the same exact problem with my arc amp. Lost the front right channel on it...after only a year. Im hoping what you say is true about his amp. Hell, with 225 watts each those pioneers better be jumping out the damn bags. Dont get much more powerful than that...without spending a ton of coin.
I've got 150 watts going to each of my Pioneers with the TN4.900 and I don't think the dam things can get any louder. What you find with more power is the clarity improves drastically at a much lower gain setting and you don't have to turn your HU up as much. My Sony at 26/27 volume is about all I can stand.
 
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I've got 150 watts going to each of my Pioneers with the TN4.900 and I don't think the dam things can get any louder. What you find with more power is the clarity improves drastically at a much lower gain setting and you don't have to turn your HU up as much. My Sony at 26/27 volume is about all I can stand.
As of right now, all I can stand on my kenwood is 30 of 35. Anything over 30 literally makes my ears hurt with the sounds coming from those kappas. im seriously curious to see how a set of 7.1 will sound compared to the kappas on the same amp. I really and truly find it hard to believe that it can get much louder or clearer than that...but stranger things have happened. Hell, based on the test results of the ppi amp, the 4.900 should be putting out the same thing. if that is indeed the case, that means those kappas are getting 235 watts each...which would explain the extreme clarity and ear piercing highs that come from them.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2014 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Eshaw301
So, long story short....I was given an opportunity to get the "replacement" version of this amp. Apparently, the parent company of Soundstream owns Precision Power as well and sells a version of the TN4.900D called the P900.4. It has the exact same specs as the 4.900D (except for a 145 watt 4 ohm rating compared to 150 with the 4.900D) but in a slightly smaller package. Did some research on it and they were right. Everything is identical on both ends of the amp. Here's a website I found that tested this amp when it came out and I am impressed with the 4 ohm bridged results. When the amp arrives, of course i'll come back and do a review on it but so far everything looks promising. If those RMS test numbers are true for a 4 ohm bridged load, then those pioneers may finally be to the point to where they sound like they're trying to jump out the saddlebags. Anyways, here's the website that tested it.....
http://www.pasmag.com/car-audio/test...004-amplifier-

Your thoughts????
Eshaw - above link does not work and besides that it got a trojan virus!

told Gann before, I would like to put the 4.900 on "my" bench... do I believe the RMS values are correct? NO... they will be lower as the SS4.520/RZ2000 do show lower results on my bench... Do we really care? NO, as long as it is LOUD
 
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tn4.900d still on ebay (239usd):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Soundstream-...ca1a2e&vxp=mtr
 
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Eshaw - above link does not work and besides that it got a trojan virus!

told Gann before, I would like to put the 4.900 on "my" bench... do I believe the RMS values are correct? NO... they will be lower as the SS4.520/RZ2000 do show lower results on my bench... Do we really care? NO, as long as it is LOUD
Try pasmag.com and search for the p900.4 to see their test specs. Now, I will admit this...i am leery of the magazine articles and website "tests" because a lot of time, they get paid to test and speak highly of certain brands. Edelbrock is one that comes to mind. Not saying they dont make great products, but some stuff is suspect...but you'll never know based on reviews. Now, this website seems to be unbiased. First because I never heard of it. And second, they test stuff every week....speakers, amps, all brands, etc. and seem to offer unbiased opinions. Plus, I know how the SS 4.900 sounds with the kappas so I am fully confident that the p900.4 will be nothing short of satisfying. Time will tell. And what is this trojan virus you speak of? Im on my work machine and this thing's operating system is built like a tank. Weird....
 
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