I'll give my thoughts. I've owned 6 different HD's. Every one had some kind of tuner installed, except the last one, which I own now. I've spent THOUSANDS of $$$$$$ over the years listening to people tell me that I "need" a tuner. I listened and tried them all. Personally, I wouldn't use a Power Commander again if you gave me one! I had nothing but trouble with them, and my bike ran much better stock. With this new bike I bought, I swore I wasn't going to go that route again. So I talked with dozens of people I know who have JUST THE DEALER DOWNLOAD, and every single one of them are extremely happy with it. My BIL is over 60,000 trouble free miles on his StreetGlide with just the download, and another friend of mine has 73,000 on his ElectraGlide. I installed the SE airbox, Vance and Hines Twin Slash slipons, and download, and my bike runs GREAT!! I've had zero problems in three years. No popping, backfiring, throttle lag......nothing at all. Clean, crisp, quick. For me, and most everyone else who has it, the simple download works great.


Oh, BTW, my local dealer had a "customer appreciation day" a couple Saturdays ago with free dyno runs. My bike was putting out 79 HP with the basic stage one. Works for me.