I just got a 2007 super glide, it came with vance and hines straight shots and I am pretty sure the 20 yo kid I bought it from never had it reprogrammed, it has the stock air cleaner on it until the new one comes Monday, (arlen Ness big sucker.) I am wondering what I need to get a good tune on it and to get the mixtures right again after I finish with the basic upgrades. I know that the power commander is good but honestly I know nothing of anything about the programmers. I have always had carbureted bikes. I am looking for the best bang for the buck. I would like to keep it under 200. If you knwo of any options or could explain the entire process to me it would appreciated.

 

Just follow the directions on the programmer. Pretty straight forward.

 

Start reading here, and don't be in too big a hurry to make a purchase;
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/ignit...-injection-55/

Dynojet and/or Fuelmoto is about your best bet for cost and lifetime service. It's not worth trying to save $100 on a tuner and not have service.

If all the further your going to go is Stage1 spending big $$$ isn't worth it either.
I tried the EFI tuner here;
http://www.fuelmotousa.com/rt-3885-e...g-modules.html
But it was too big to fit under the seat of my 09 FXD,, Fuelmoto let me exchange for the PC-V,, and I've been happy with that.

Good luck,,

 

The best bang for the buck, to get your Stage I running well, is the XiED. You can see the details HERE, including dyno charts.

It is not a tuner, but it will adjust the mixtures to make the bike run better than stock, taking into account that you now have free flowing exhaust and intake.

It only costs $100. While it does not tune like a Power Commander or Power Vision, for a fraction of the price it will give you 80% the benefits of a $500 tuner for 20% of the cost. This is why thousands of folks run these and are completely happy with them.

Here is a thread with an overview of popular tuning options-

https://www.hdforums.com/forum/ignit...uning-etc.html

 

DK custom,

how do the XiED work? what is it that they do to drop the temp and adjust the fuel?

Would you recommend them with a fuelpak? or better use one or the other?

 

The XIED tricks the ECM into thinking that the O2 sensors need more fuel by changing the voltage from the O2 sensors to the ECM. All the XIED is an adjustable resistor. In the case of the XIED it is not adjustable, the Vied's are.

 

XiED is a lure.
Low cost but low utility.
To compare Xied and tuner is ridiculous. If you can't buy a good tuner don't change your exhausts.

 

well thanks for the advice....... not

 

The Plug-n-Play XiED richens the Air Fuel Ratio from 14.6:1 to 13.8:1 in closed loop mode.

They work inline with your existing H-D Bosch narrow band 02 sensors and Delphi ECM to richen the fuel mixtures, adding approximately 8% more fuel to the engine in closed loop mode.

There is an indirect richening of the open loop fuel mixtures through the learning mode, or adaptive fuel value action built into your ECM. This ensures the richer 13.8-12.5:1 AFR's are ALSO adjusted in heavy/full throttle operation.


For a complete understanding of how the HD Delphi EFI system works, and how the XiED's work in concert with the EFI to richen the tune in BOTH open and closed loop, take a look at post #24 in the following thread-

https://www.hdforums.com/forum/sport...age-1-a-3.html


There are a good many people that have used the fuelpak 1 & 2 and still can't get a tune that they like. Many have added either the XiED or ViED to the bike, with the Fuelpak and ended up with results that they are very happy with.

You can see all the XiED products at this LINK, along with dyno charts.

I myself would use an XiED product before a Fuelpak 1 or 2. The FP3 is a very good unit...and cost over 3x's as much...so you have to weigh what benefits you are looking for, and whether the extra benefits are worth the $ to you. I would only use both if I already had an FP 1 or 2 and was not getting good results.

Here is a LINK where you can see FP3 Details.

I have used just about every tuner there is with one bike of mine or another. I've used an XiED product on several of my own bikes. I had one on my Sportster for a few years and was completely happy with it.




XiED's are a budget way to get a decent AFR on a stock bike, or a bike that has a free flowing Air Cleaner and/or exhaust.

Harley is actually very good with their AFR tables & spark tables, just a little lean in the closed loop AFR, due to EPA. The XiED product works with those AFR tables and just richens them up some (not changing the HD progression) to what HD would deliver to the Customer if their hand's weren't tied by the EPA.

Will a bike run better with a $500 tuner than with the $100 XiED? Yes.

Will the improvement be 5 times better? No.

Is it worth it to many to pay the extra $400 to get all possible improvement? Yes.

Are tens of thousands very happy with spending only $100 and getting a much smoother accelerating, stronger accelerating bike from the XiED's? Yes.

Different strokes for different folks...or, like in my case...

I have several bikes. Some I want to get every last bit of possible power out of, and I use the Power Vision tuner.

Another bike is just more utility, but I did want to get rid of the stock low speed surging from the too lean tune. I also wanted freer flowing exhaust and air cleaner. On that bike I run an XiED and am very happy with the results for that bike.

Below is a chart showing the real-world benefit of using and XiED product, showing where it takes the stock AFR from 14.7:1-15.5:1 down to 14.0:1

This makes a huge difference in heat, and, more importantly, in power and smoothness in acceleration.

 

Talk to Fuelmoto. Period!!!!