Fixed "v inner" code at start up
So I'm sure there's not too many people with this problem, but like a year back I read tru a ton of threads related to the v inner issue and it seemed like not many people could get rid of it once it started happening, including myself. I also want to say that the v inner issue seems to effect certain bikes differently so what worked for me might not work for you.
I have a 2014 street bob with 10k. After like 6 months I started seeing "v inner" in the trip display when I started the bike. It would hesitate and turn over once or twice before actually starting. It was very rare in the beginning but over the next 6 months it did it more and more. Sometimes the hesitation would be a little longer and the rpms would be higher then normal before they dropped back down to a normal level. It seemed like cold starts or really short rides (like leaving your house and going to get gas where the bike had only ran a couple minutes) caused it the most. Over the past year it did it more and more untill it became every start up. The bike has always started though and the message goes away once started.
Because my warranty is about to be up, I went over all the wires and checked the battery and everything seemed normal. I'm **** about charging my bike, so over the winter I try to put it on the battery tender once a week for like 24/36 hours at at time. (That's about how long it takes for the light to turn green)
This time I took takes he battery out and charged it on a battery charger instead of using the battery charger. I put the battery back in and it didn't say v inner for the first time in a year and a year half. I now leave the bike on the battery tender permanently in between rides and the code had gone away. I feel like the bike is on some kind of life support and While it's annoying that this needs to be done, I'm happy that it didn't cost me any money replacing parts trying to guess at the cause.
I also think it's important to add that the dealer used a code reader on the bike and didn't see any error codes. So basically it seems like although I ride a couple times a week for a few hours at a time, the battery was not being charged enough from riding itself. I think theres something wrong with the battery maintaining charge but I'm just happy that I don't have some crazy electrical problem. So if anyone is having a similar issue, try charging your battery for more then a couple days before you starting buying new parts to fix the problem. Hope this helps and good luck, this v inner **** was really driving me crazy...
I have a 2014 street bob with 10k. After like 6 months I started seeing "v inner" in the trip display when I started the bike. It would hesitate and turn over once or twice before actually starting. It was very rare in the beginning but over the next 6 months it did it more and more. Sometimes the hesitation would be a little longer and the rpms would be higher then normal before they dropped back down to a normal level. It seemed like cold starts or really short rides (like leaving your house and going to get gas where the bike had only ran a couple minutes) caused it the most. Over the past year it did it more and more untill it became every start up. The bike has always started though and the message goes away once started.
Because my warranty is about to be up, I went over all the wires and checked the battery and everything seemed normal. I'm **** about charging my bike, so over the winter I try to put it on the battery tender once a week for like 24/36 hours at at time. (That's about how long it takes for the light to turn green)
This time I took takes he battery out and charged it on a battery charger instead of using the battery charger. I put the battery back in and it didn't say v inner for the first time in a year and a year half. I now leave the bike on the battery tender permanently in between rides and the code had gone away. I feel like the bike is on some kind of life support and While it's annoying that this needs to be done, I'm happy that it didn't cost me any money replacing parts trying to guess at the cause.
I also think it's important to add that the dealer used a code reader on the bike and didn't see any error codes. So basically it seems like although I ride a couple times a week for a few hours at a time, the battery was not being charged enough from riding itself. I think theres something wrong with the battery maintaining charge but I'm just happy that I don't have some crazy electrical problem. So if anyone is having a similar issue, try charging your battery for more then a couple days before you starting buying new parts to fix the problem. Hope this helps and good luck, this v inner **** was really driving me crazy...
24 to 36 hours on a battery tender before it would cycle back to solid green? That's a hell of a long time. My bikes are always kept on battery tenders the moment they're parked and for the '13 Wide Glide it takes 20 - 30 seconds to cycle from the red check/charge state to the flashing green, back to solid green within 3 minutes or so.
Are you getting quicker times back to the solid green state now that you're keeping the bike on a tender regularly or is it still taking a fair amount of time?
Are you getting quicker times back to the solid green state now that you're keeping the bike on a tender regularly or is it still taking a fair amount of time?
I doubt it is a matter of the charging system and more a matter of how/when you ride your bike. My guess is that you do a lot of in town or short trip riding? I suspect that over the year or so, your battery developed a surface charge. That is a battery that isn't putting out the CCA that it is rated at. I suspect that when you put it on the charger it cycled the battery down and then back up. This is known as reconditioning the battery. Unfortunately, this is just a temporary solution. At work, our aircraft batteries are charged before every flight and reconditioned every 28 days. They last about 2.5 years before they fail reconditioning and have to be replaced. I suspect that currently, the tender is keeping the battery topped off but 24/36 hours for the light to turn green says to me that the damage is likely done. It tells me that the battery is run down and that your battery is on life support. That or you have a nice tender that is reconditioning your battery on the long cycles. Don't be heart broken, the same happens in your cage but with such a large battery, the effect is less pronounced.
I found on my LR-S that is was caused by extra draw by the starter if you try and start in gear. Even when hot and the clutch was looser it would happen from time to time. After sitting, it was almost always a hard start, and would cause the error from time to time. Putting the bike in neutral before starting has completely eliminated the issue. That being said, I park in an underground (no windows) shared parking garage which unfortunately has no power outlets, so a tender is not an option. Over the winter, I get a heat it up/charge the batt ride in about once a month (on those odd, above 32 days) and it always started even after a month of sitting. As long as I was in neutral!
Yea the light would turn from red to blinking green fairly quickly, but it would be blinking green for a while (atleast 24 hrs) before it would stay solid green. I think blinking green means that the battery is 80% charged or something like that. Now that it's been living on the tender, when I plug it back in it blinks green for a few minutes and then it stays solid green. My dad has a road king and the battery is older then mine but it still charges way faster, like a couple hours tops.
As far as keeping the bike on the battery tender permanently, I've never had another bike which needed that. Seems crazy that people do that unless your dont ride often or its winter. Fortunately it's not to big of a deal and I plan on getting a new battery within a couple weeks.
As far as going on short rides, I really dont. I live in an area where the roads arnt great for riding due to heavy traffic and pot holes, so I have to go like an hour away to find roads that I'd consider fun to ride. I don't do a lot of short rides unless I'm using the bike for errands or commuting which isn't often.
And are you saying your Lr-s also has the v inner code? I never start the bike in gear just because it's so easy to put it in neutral but the few times I've done it, it didn't seem noticeably harder to start.
I thought I was stuck with this issue just because i had tried so many things that I heard could be causing the problem. I felt That I was charging the bike frequently enough and I didnt want to let the dealer mess with my bike and cause a different problem.
But anyway, I appreciate the advice. Im not familiar with reconditioning the battery so I'm going to look into that a little further.
As far as keeping the bike on the battery tender permanently, I've never had another bike which needed that. Seems crazy that people do that unless your dont ride often or its winter. Fortunately it's not to big of a deal and I plan on getting a new battery within a couple weeks.
As far as going on short rides, I really dont. I live in an area where the roads arnt great for riding due to heavy traffic and pot holes, so I have to go like an hour away to find roads that I'd consider fun to ride. I don't do a lot of short rides unless I'm using the bike for errands or commuting which isn't often.
And are you saying your Lr-s also has the v inner code? I never start the bike in gear just because it's so easy to put it in neutral but the few times I've done it, it didn't seem noticeably harder to start.
I thought I was stuck with this issue just because i had tried so many things that I heard could be causing the problem. I felt That I was charging the bike frequently enough and I didnt want to let the dealer mess with my bike and cause a different problem.
But anyway, I appreciate the advice. Im not familiar with reconditioning the battery so I'm going to look into that a little further.
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just hae exact problem, 2014 street bob 11000 km.....v inner and it is harder to turn over.....before it was no problem.....
maybe it is battery...it started after it ran out of juice, the battery...i am worried a lot...
maybe it is battery...it started after it ran out of juice, the battery...i am worried a lot...
Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I am having a similar issue with my Street Bob and wonder if I can dig up some answers. (Just FYI, my bike is a 2014 Street Bob with aftermarket ape hangers and extended cables and wiring. All of this work was done back in 2014 and I have not come up on this issue with the V-INNER code until this year. Back in 2016 I did remove my front turn signals completely since they were bulky and ugly and did not care for the look. The only issue with the lack of turn signals was my canbus running quick flashers on the dash, but my tail turn signals worked fine.)
So recently (within the last 4-5 months) my master cylinder on my hand brake had been sticking and causing some play/wiggle room on the lever and was also causing my brake lights to stay on here and there when the brake lever was released. I didn't really notice the issue (aside from having play in my brake lever, which I ignored stupidly) until I got a solid red light on my dash about a month and a half ago. I looked up common causes of the red dash light and assumed it must have had something to do with my brake lights staying on while riding. So I rebuilt the master cylinder a couple of weeks ago and have since fixed the brake light/lever play issue. However, the last few months the bike has been rough starting here and there and the other day after a rough start I got the V-INNER code. So I plugged my bike into my battery tender for about 4 days straight. On the fifth day I took the bike out. It fired right up with no starting lag or codes on the dash. The bike even seemed to run smoother and better. BUT, after a short 10 min ride, I parked the bike for about an hour and tried to start up and immediately got the starting lag and code. So I am going to assume the main issue is due to the battery not having enough necessary juice to turn over the motor properly.
My question is, does anyone here who's had this same issue suspect that maybe my lack of turn signals is causing some kind of draining issue on my battery? (FYI, the battery was bought brand new back in March of this year).
So recently (within the last 4-5 months) my master cylinder on my hand brake had been sticking and causing some play/wiggle room on the lever and was also causing my brake lights to stay on here and there when the brake lever was released. I didn't really notice the issue (aside from having play in my brake lever, which I ignored stupidly) until I got a solid red light on my dash about a month and a half ago. I looked up common causes of the red dash light and assumed it must have had something to do with my brake lights staying on while riding. So I rebuilt the master cylinder a couple of weeks ago and have since fixed the brake light/lever play issue. However, the last few months the bike has been rough starting here and there and the other day after a rough start I got the V-INNER code. So I plugged my bike into my battery tender for about 4 days straight. On the fifth day I took the bike out. It fired right up with no starting lag or codes on the dash. The bike even seemed to run smoother and better. BUT, after a short 10 min ride, I parked the bike for about an hour and tried to start up and immediately got the starting lag and code. So I am going to assume the main issue is due to the battery not having enough necessary juice to turn over the motor properly.
My question is, does anyone here who's had this same issue suspect that maybe my lack of turn signals is causing some kind of draining issue on my battery? (FYI, the battery was bought brand new back in March of this year).
Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I am having a similar issue with my Street Bob and wonder if I can dig up some answers. (Just FYI, my bike is a 2014 Street Bob with aftermarket ape hangers and extended cables and wiring. All of this work was done back in 2014 and I have not come up on this issue with the V-INNER code until this year. Back in 2016 I did remove my front turn signals completely since they were bulky and ugly and did not care for the look. The only issue with the lack of turn signals was my canbus running quick flashers on the dash, but my tail turn signals worked fine.)
So recently (within the last 4-5 months) my master cylinder on my hand brake had been sticking and causing some play/wiggle room on the lever and was also causing my brake lights to stay on here and there when the brake lever was released. I didn't really notice the issue (aside from having play in my brake lever, which I ignored stupidly) until I got a solid red light on my dash about a month and a half ago. I looked up common causes of the red dash light and assumed it must have had something to do with my brake lights staying on while riding. So I rebuilt the master cylinder a couple of weeks ago and have since fixed the brake light/lever play issue. However, the last few months the bike has been rough starting here and there and the other day after a rough start I got the V-INNER code. So I plugged my bike into my battery tender for about 4 days straight. On the fifth day I took the bike out. It fired right up with no starting lag or codes on the dash. The bike even seemed to run smoother and better. BUT, after a short 10 min ride, I parked the bike for about an hour and tried to start up and immediately got the starting lag and code. So I am going to assume the main issue is due to the battery not having enough necessary juice to turn over the motor properly.
My question is, does anyone here who's had this same issue suspect that maybe my lack of turn signals is causing some kind of draining issue on my battery? (FYI, the battery was bought brand new back in March of this year).
So recently (within the last 4-5 months) my master cylinder on my hand brake had been sticking and causing some play/wiggle room on the lever and was also causing my brake lights to stay on here and there when the brake lever was released. I didn't really notice the issue (aside from having play in my brake lever, which I ignored stupidly) until I got a solid red light on my dash about a month and a half ago. I looked up common causes of the red dash light and assumed it must have had something to do with my brake lights staying on while riding. So I rebuilt the master cylinder a couple of weeks ago and have since fixed the brake light/lever play issue. However, the last few months the bike has been rough starting here and there and the other day after a rough start I got the V-INNER code. So I plugged my bike into my battery tender for about 4 days straight. On the fifth day I took the bike out. It fired right up with no starting lag or codes on the dash. The bike even seemed to run smoother and better. BUT, after a short 10 min ride, I parked the bike for about an hour and tried to start up and immediately got the starting lag and code. So I am going to assume the main issue is due to the battery not having enough necessary juice to turn over the motor properly.
My question is, does anyone here who's had this same issue suspect that maybe my lack of turn signals is causing some kind of draining issue on my battery? (FYI, the battery was bought brand new back in March of this year).
Tested my Regulator and it was bad.
For the the hell of it, I swapped out a new battery and that didn’t fix the problem. So I put on a regulator and new battery and that did it. My concern is that I made a bandaid. I am not 100% my ACR are enabled. Are you tuned ?!









